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Re: Non Obvious Units/Things for Israel

Postby solvens » Fri 24 Jun 2016 15:53

In case Israel is lacking ATGM planes, here's an old proto :

The Mirage IV RJ was a ground attack version of the Mirage IV A bomber, made specially for Israel.
Israel ordered 12 of them in 1964, but the french embargo of 1967 killed the project.
It could carry 10x500kg bombs, or 4/5xAS.30 missiles.

Spoiler : Mirage IV A :
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Re: Non Obvious Units/Things for Israel

Postby icehawk308 » Fri 24 Jun 2016 16:02

Have more sources on that - wiki states export model was proposed to Israel & India but nothing came of it. - very little info

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Re: Non Obvious Units/Things for Israel

Postby IAF » Fri 24 Jun 2016 16:44

[EUG]MadMat wrote:
IAF wrote:or as it was known in the IDF "Drakon" (Dragon).

Thanks for the tip.
Chappy was in my IDF army list, but I had failed to get the nickname. It's always better when a unit as a local name.
I'm adding it to my list ... :)

Any Israeli nickname for the Hawk? M110? ZSU-23-2? Bell 205?
Pretty much everything else, I've got local names for ...



Dont know about any Hebrew name for the HAWK nor for the ZSU and the Bell. I am actually serving in the Israeli Air Defence Command (Iron Dome, too modern for Wargame, unfortunatly ;) ) so I am pretty much familiar with all the air defence units.

The Israeli name for Stinger missiles was "Barkan" and they were carried on Hummers. I can try to find more info about the Israeli Stinger units if you need it...

Also, the Patriot is known as "Yahalom" (Means diamond).

Feel free to ask me for help.
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Re: Non Obvious Units/Things for Israel

Postby [EUG]MadMat » Fri 24 Jun 2016 16:53

IAF wrote:The Israeli name for Stinger missiles was "Barkan" and they were carried on Hummers.

Inside the Hummer? Or on top of it?
The latter would provide us with a VBL Mistral-like unit ... if in-timeframe.

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Re: Non Obvious Units/Things for Israel

Postby Razzmann » Fri 24 Jun 2016 16:55

[EUG]MadMat wrote:Inside the Hummer? Or on top of it?
The latter would provide us with a VBL Mistral-like unit ... if in-timeframe.

FTFY ;)

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Re: Non Obvious Units/Things for Israel

Postby [EUG]MadMat » Fri 24 Jun 2016 17:06

Razzmann wrote:
[EUG]MadMat wrote:Inside the Hummer? Or on top of it?
The latter would provide us with a VBL Mistral-like unit ... if in-timeframe.

FTFY ;)

Indeed. My bad, typo ... :?

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Re: Non Obvious Units/Things for Israel

Postby IAF » Fri 24 Jun 2016 17:25

[EUG]MadMat wrote:
IAF wrote:The Israeli name for Stinger missiles was "Barkan" and they were carried on Hummers.

Inside the Hummer? Or on top of it?
The latter would provide us with a VBL Mistral-like unit ... if in-timeframe.


Inside the Hummer, this is how it looked like. :
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There were 7 soldiers inside it, two soldiers carrying the missiles and on with a MAG.
Israel used the M113 to carry stingers too, I am looking for info about it.
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Re: Non Obvious Units/Things for Israel

Postby 47andrej » Fri 24 Jun 2016 18:17

Whats the consensus about MK3 BAZ upgrade? Will it make it? Compared with K1A1, Mexas and some other tank protos it should.

Also what about Tiran with Blazer ERA?
In the 1970s/1980s the Israelis decided to transform some of their Tiran to optimize them. Two types of prototypes were developed: the first was the Samovar 1 which had improvements of Merkava. So the canon was changed to that of the Merkava II, and it received a small wire-mesh basket on the side of the turret and in tests he received even from small short skirts in reactive bricks.

Samovar 2, the second version of the Samovar, was less developed and pushed less than the previous. Of note is a significant change in the back of the turret as well as an important change of engine which translates visuellemet by a more square crate back.

Tiran Blazer is a Tiran 5 version developed for a number of significant gear. Changes are mainly to the addition of brick reactive same ideology (but completely different in design and form) of those present on the Mágach or well yet the Sho't Kal Dalet.

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Even as yugo voter i can say Israel has some damn cool tank lines.

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Re: Non Obvious Units/Things for Israel

Postby [EUG]MadMat » Fri 24 Jun 2016 18:20

47andrej wrote:Also what about Tiran with Blazer ERA

Already in our list ... ;)

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Re: Non Obvious Units/Things for Israel

Postby 47andrej » Fri 24 Jun 2016 18:22

[EUG]MadMat wrote:
47andrej wrote:Also what about Tiran with Blazer ERA

Already in our list ... ;)

Thats cool:)

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