Eukie wrote:No, that's the original Bismark turret. If you look at photos of the TTD you'll see a lot of differences. They do look alike though, but that's because West Germany helped develop both, the bastards.
Yeah, it's kind of... squished on Bismark. Why even add an Olifant turret option then? Cost? Lulz?
Eukie wrote:For 120 mm candidates I've found three; the TTD, the Bismark, and the Olifant Mk1B Optimal. The Bismark and Optimal are probably more realistically 105 mm, but on the other hand they're also more authentically South African and/or in timeframe.
TTD is SA's only shot at a 'true' 3rd gen MBT... and isn't it 1994 and thus in timeframe? We operate in a world with K1A1s and K9s and Ka-52s.
Mk.1B Optimal looks like a heck of an armor upgrade, so there's a role to play there. Bismark is a unique capability and there should be as much of that as possible.
Do you have any idea what they were shooting out of those gun tubes?
Anyway, based on what we have now, South African Tank Tab, full size:
Olifant Mk. 1 (1978)- 20-pounder gun, upgraded engine and turret drives over Centurion Mk. 5, possibly a commander's handheld LRF.
Olifant Mk. 1A (1983)- 105mm gun, LRF, upgraded sights.
Olifant Mk. 1B (1991... did see 1985 at one point)- Mk. 1A + improved mobility, armor upgrade, some sort of fire control system? South African Super M60 equivalent.
Olifant Mk. 1B Optimal (199x)- Mk. 1B + heavier armor, 105mm gun, fancy pants AP shell like everyone else has.
TTD 105mm (1994) - Basically an M1IP.
TTD 120mm (1994) - Basically an M1A1.
Bismark (1982)- 9 AV M60A3 on wheels.
Eland Mk. 7 (1979)- 90mm gun, 2 SS.11 missiles, can't fire on the move, bulletproof. Pretty standard armored car.
Rooikat 105 (1994)- 105mm gun, thermals, full FCS, etc. Think M8 AGS on wheels.
Regular Rooikat could also go here, or in vehicles, or in the recon tab, or in all 3.
