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Re: Proposal: f117 availability

Posted: Wed 22 Jun 2016 17:02
by another505
if F-15e gets mraam , 50 ecm, and 2 per card

i want su27m get 2 per card too



(no, f15e, stays one per card, with 2 cards. 50 ecm, no damn mraam)

Re: Proposal: f117 availability

Posted: Wed 22 Jun 2016 17:07
by captaincarnage
2 per card deagle or noobhawk is possibly overkill, possibly not in the case of the nighthawk, just FYI OP it is 2 cards of 1 in ALB.

There's actually an easy win for USA's iron bomber issue which is to tighten the bomb spread of the F111E give it say 15% accuracy and the same bombdrop pattern as the deagle and you've got something which will cover a decent area, admittedly not do massive damage but it would still be a useful card IMO

Re: Proposal: f117 availability

Posted: Wed 22 Jun 2016 17:11
by molnibalage
captaincarnage wrote:2 per card deagle or noobhawk is possibly overkill, possibly not in the case of the nighthawk, just FYI OP it is 2 cards of 1 in ALB.

There's actually an easy win for USA's iron bomber issue which is to tighten the bomb spread of the F111E give it say 15% accuracy and the same bombdrop pattern as the deagle and you've got something which will cover a decent area, admittedly not do massive damage but it would still be a useful card IMO

In ALB were much weaker ASF on red side as well as high and AD. Two cards of F-117 cost was very, very high in AP.

Re: Proposal: f117 availability

Posted: Wed 22 Jun 2016 17:26
by Steamfunk
In ALB were much weaker ASF on red side as well as high end AD.


Well yeah, but there were a few inaccuracies there (especially loadouts). Also there were cheap Shilkas and Tunguska-M was awesome. NATO AD has always been overbuffed, but at least there was a reason for that ie. Hinds. The main difference is the game isn't balanced around the US/USSR, and minors got all sorts of bonuses.

Re: Proposal: f117 availability

Posted: Wed 22 Jun 2016 17:35
by Mike
ALEX8 wrote:I disagree, F117 is highly effective in low point tactical games.


Is
This
A
Joke?

"Tactical" games are irrelevant to balance discussions.

Re: Proposal: f117 availability

Posted: Wed 22 Jun 2016 17:52
by Steamfunk
To clarify, I was referring to the fact that RD is balanced around coalitions, which explains why the RAF has an LGB carrier. Or why the Dutch have a tactical missile which in fact belongs to the US, etc.

Re: Proposal: f117 availability

Posted: Wed 22 Jun 2016 18:16
by Forimar
Hell no, the game doesn't need more super bombers. A well played F-117 is obnoxious to deal with, two of them would only make it worse. It would be much better to keep it at one per card and tone down the amount of stealth it loses when it drops its LGBs.

Re: Proposal: f117 availability

Posted: Wed 22 Jun 2016 20:27
by Sir Typhoon
This was been discused some time ago. The solution is simple: 2 cards of NightHawks, and 2 cards of F-15 E. Both with 1 plane each. No need to argue anymore.

Re: Proposal: f117 availability

Posted: Wed 22 Jun 2016 21:02
by LoneRifle
+1
It's time to make America great again folks. Starting with the F117!

:lol:

Re: Proposal: f117 availability

Posted: Wed 22 Jun 2016 21:13
by antred
GARGEAN wrote:-1
We don't need more "erase unit" buttons.


This. -1 to this proposal.