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Re: Eastern Block

Postby Fade2Gray » Wed 14 Sep 2016 15:09

molnibalage wrote:
Fade2Gray wrote:No you don't. You are pulling straight MILINT lies right now, and everyone knows it.

What in MILINT?


Oh the irony...
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Re: Eastern Block

Postby morpher » Wed 14 Sep 2016 15:11

BadsharkDK wrote:
You should rethink your life.



Why I play the game because it is fun.
And i would much rather win by others tactician than spam. and I win many games also ranked
If you can only win by spam. You should instead practice a little in the game


Ahhhh, this forum is so serious.
Btw, what is your in-game name?

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Re: Eastern Block

Postby ToTheMetal » Wed 14 Sep 2016 15:15

molnibalage wrote:
ToTheMetal wrote:3 squads of spamschutzen rape any tank in 40-50 price range taking little to no casualties lol.

LoL, I take for 65 CP the Chif. or M1 which has 14 and 15 FAV. M1 has two MGs.

As long as you are not stupid and not let them being flanked 14 AP HEAT RPG-7 is simply useless. Even against 10 FAV tanks 14 AP requires 4 hits (!) to kill without crit. Against the most crap 25CP M48A5 you need two hits to kill it. M60A2E1 STARSHIP has 10 FAV and 5 HE gun + MG. M60A2E2 STARSHIP has AC but the best, M728 CEV has 13 FAV... I had no chance to use it but as I see a single CEV eradicate any spam just need to fire once with 8HE gun.

Plus you get them in BMP-1s which aren't bad at killing Cat C tanks either.

Usable C cat tanks have 14-15 FAV. Without crit BMP-1 dmg. is minimal, to me BMP-1 is only a fire support against inf.

For 65 points I have 3 squads of spam '75 and a squad of spam '90. They put that tank out of it's misery by all chiping in a single shot.
M48 (25) dies to 2 shots from spam '75 (30).
Starship argument is even funny, nobody plays that rubbish.
CEV/AVRE are the only way to handle the spam.
You don't get the point, try comparing units by their prices and not their numbers lmfao.
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Re: Eastern Block

Postby Razzmann » Wed 14 Sep 2016 15:17

I envy you for having the patience to explain molni the game balance.

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Re: Eastern Block

Postby molnibalage » Wed 14 Sep 2016 15:28

ToTheMetal wrote:For 65 points I have 3 squads of spam '75 and a squad of spam '90.

Yes, this is the point. No matter how many old sq. has a single tank can kill them with minimal inf support to provide it eyes for first shot then MG stun. Any of your hit can deal only 1 HP dmg then came the gun hit and MG stun. The tank anytime can retreat.

This is why better the '90s variant only for +5CP. Against 24 AP HEAT even 150 CP tanks are in trouble very fast...

Starship argument is even funny, nobody plays that rubbish.

I use it in armored deck just is case besides the MBT-70. MBT-70 is way too expensive but for 35CP against elite in and 5HE gun is a good choice.

CEV/AVRE are the only way to handle the spam.

Against older variant is not true. A moving M1 is not defeatable with old inf, you can flank only in case the opponent is plain stupid. I saw in tactical game such guy who want deep in the forest with M1 while he even spooted inf before eneterd into...

... while another M1 used by another player simply killed with minimal inf support tons of our older inf because cheap even with great numbers did not do anyting against 15FAV and 2xMG. We could kill slowly the recon inf which advanced ahead but came the M1 and kiiled one by one the cheaper inf. In Cat A envoronment anything below 18-20 AP HET RPG and 700 m range is simply garbage.

You don't get the point, try comparing units by their prices and not their numbers lmfao.

Both are important.

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Re: Eastern Block

Postby BadsharkDK » Wed 14 Sep 2016 15:31

morpher wrote:
BadsharkDK wrote:
You should rethink your life.



Why I play the game because it is fun.
And i would much rather win by others tactician than spam. and I win many games also ranked
If you can only win by spam. You should instead practice a little in the game


Ahhhh, this forum is so serious.
Btw, what is your in-game name?


was not to make you angry :)
My in-game name is Anders, what is yours ?. Im sure you are a better player :)

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Re: Eastern Block

Postby ToTheMetal » Wed 14 Sep 2016 15:36

molnibalage wrote:
ToTheMetal wrote:You don't get the point, try comparing units by their prices and not their numbers lmfao

Both are important.

No they're not.
You clearly have no idea how ranked games work.
I'm done trying to explain you anything, it's pointless.
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Re: Eastern Block

Postby morpher » Wed 14 Sep 2016 15:36

BadsharkDK wrote:
was not to make you angry :)
My in-game name is Anders, what is yours ?. Im sure you are a better player :)


I play mostly in incognito. Main name zhar_to.

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Re: Eastern Block

Postby molnibalage » Wed 14 Sep 2016 15:39

ToTheMetal wrote:
molnibalage wrote:
ToTheMetal wrote:You don't get the point, try comparing units by their prices and not their numbers lmfao

Both are important.

No they're not.
You clearly have no idea how ranked games work.
I'm done trying to explain you anything, it's pointless.

And who spoked about ranked games...? I do not play 1 v 1 ranked because it is gambling and only APM race.

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Re: Eastern Block

Postby KattiValk » Wed 14 Sep 2016 15:46

I don't understand how Molni is having such a hard time grasping combined arms. It's almost as if having extremely cost effective grind infantry means you have the edge in points to get more tanks and other supporting assets that actually can kill the "Cat C tanks" plus the bottomless BMP-1 horde. :|

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