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Postby CUALEB_Operator » Sat 1 Oct 2016 05:11

"Pros" that are killing Luzhandui's size are tuning redfor based on their bluefor experience.

Cost-effectivenesswise redfor infs are never on-par with bluefor. A few unique features and tricks are all they can count on, especially for RD.

Yeah, they Mr. Knowalls can talk all day long. They'd never heard of Tianji's race anyway.

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Postby DeckCheney » Sat 1 Oct 2016 05:14

Fade2Gray wrote:Well yeah, what do you expect from a starving horde of barely trained conscripts?


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Postby Grabbed_by_the_Spets » Sat 1 Oct 2016 05:22

CUALEB_Operator wrote:Cost-effectivenesswise redfor infs are never on-par with bluefor. A few unique features and tricks are all they can count on, especially for RD.


East Germany's shtick has been having the most cost effective infantry in the the game for the past three games now...
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Postby CandyMan » Sat 1 Oct 2016 06:04

Grabbed_by_the_Spets wrote:
CUALEB_Operator wrote:Cost-effectivenesswise redfor infs are never on-par with bluefor. A few unique features and tricks are all they can count on, especially for RD.


East Germany's shtick has been having the most cost effective infantry in the the game for the past three games now...


No that would be Jager up until they went to 15 and became equally as effective as mot75'. Now with higher ifv armor, base rpg-7 is going to suck even more and Jager at will make it far more effective.
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Postby codextero » Sat 1 Oct 2016 06:09

CandyMan wrote:
Grabbed_by_the_Spets wrote:
CUALEB_Operator wrote:Cost-effectivenesswise redfor infs are never on-par with bluefor. A few unique features and tricks are all they can count on, especially for RD.


East Germany's shtick has been having the most cost effective infantry in the the game for the past three games now...


No that would be Jager up until they went to 15 and became equally as effective as mot75'. Now with higher ifv armor, base rpg-7 is going to suck even more and Jager at will make it far more effective.


IFV armor upgrade doesn't hurt RPG-7 nearly as much. Right now it only kills 1 AV in 1 hit, and needs 2 hits for 2 AV to 7 AV.

PZF-44 and M72A4 infantry are the ones most affected by the change, because 16 is enough to 1 shot 2 AV, and most low-end IFV's that you see often are 2 AV. Now theres many more 3AV transports that can soak a PZF-44 hit and keep shooting. BMP-1 SP-1 is the biggest example, Panzergrenadiers used to be able to kill that in one hit, now they need 2. This makes the 18 AP Carl Gustav on Stormers a decisive upgrade, since it kills BMP-1 SP1 and BMP-1D in one shot.

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Postby Razzmann » Sat 1 Oct 2016 08:24

Killertomato wrote:L86:

Replaced by minimi.


Better than minimi.

It is not better than minimi afaik.

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Postby Skif[BC] » Sat 1 Oct 2016 08:26

fox_the_apprentice wrote:
Skif[BC] wrote:Is there any confirmation of rumors about 7 rpm in T-72 line?

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Postby Tiera » Sat 1 Oct 2016 09:27

CUALEB_Operator wrote:"Pros" that are killing Luzhandui's size are tuning redfor based on their bluefor experience.

Cost-effectivenesswise redfor infs are never on-par with bluefor. A few unique features and tricks are all they can count on, especially for RD.

Yeah, they Mr. Knowalls can talk all day long. They'd never heard of Tianji's race anyway.

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Postby MrRand0m2 » Sat 1 Oct 2016 09:42

If it is true that line is even worse, well then imho whole update is a fail (update following DLC). If anything they all deserved 30% acc so they dont suck bad, also better bursts than 3 bullets lol.

It is sad because many people expected line to be positively effected by this update. This is more like SF buff judging by Razzmans gameplay I saw. One unit of SF panicked murders ton of others non-sf.
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Postby chykka » Sat 1 Oct 2016 10:10

Vet only give accuracy and panicked SF can't really do much damage. There is an IFV buff, and Line infantry tend too come in IFV and apc with the Lmg buffs lots of line infantry will be useful. Whats really getting hurt is Sf like SAS , and militia with no Lmgs.
But dunno how many had Range reduced. I heard M60 has less range.
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