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Re: MG rebalance complete list

Posted: Mon 3 Oct 2016 19:40
by CandyMan
When your opponent breaks out Akula combo or longbow, That is when you send in the swarm of cheap IR heli hunting fighters. USA losing its longbow or USSR it's akula is a huge blow and easily handled in that manner. Usually with 1 loss or none.

Re: MG rebalance complete list

Posted: Tue 4 Oct 2016 04:28
by DeckCheney
CandyMan wrote:When your opponent breaks out Akula combo or longbow, That is when you send in the swarm of cheap IR heli hunting fighters. USA losing its longbow or USSR it's akula is a huge blow and easily handled in that manner. Usually with 1 loss or none.


Except the Akula is terrible and should be in any USSR decks when the Mi-28 exists.

Re: MG rebalance complete list

Posted: Tue 4 Oct 2016 04:36
by DeckCheney
axnone wrote:you're not suggesting relying solely on machbet and stinger cobras for anti-helo are you ?especially when redfor could pull out the notorious KA-50+KA-52 combo,outranging all of your ground AA.

the ASF needs further testing to see whether a 7000m 70% mraam is as good as it seems.


Machbet and stInger cobras are all you need. I gave up on using Charpalls in the USA deck a long time ago.

You realise the Ka-50 was nerfed to the same range as regular redfir helicopters- it's actually worse than the Mi-28/24 since it has a terrible stabiliser. The near instant aim time of the PIVADS and expected Machbet will be sufficent to stun-kill anything in range.

70% accuracy MRAAM will be uncontested for the missile- specially since it comes on a cheaper platform unlike the Rafale.

Re: MG rebalance complete list

Posted: Tue 4 Oct 2016 05:13
by Kasrkin229
So correct me if i'm wrong. But from what I've picked up from this is.
M60/PKM still ashite.
MG3 got even stronger
Minimi actually got stronger
Fusiliers 90 are new turbo Jagers.

Re: MG rebalance complete list

Posted: Tue 4 Oct 2016 05:16
by KattiValk
I'd reserve thoughts on the MG rebalance until it releases.

axnone wrote:you're not suggesting relying solely on machbet and stinger cobras for anti-helo are you ?
You should have seen ALB W.Germ. :lol:

But yeah, Israel's anti-helo AA isn't great.

Re: MG rebalance complete list

Posted: Tue 4 Oct 2016 05:17
by Admiral Piett
Kasrkin229 wrote:So correct me if i'm wrong. But from what I've picked up from this is.
M60/PKM still ashite.
MG3 got even stronger
Minimi actually got stronger
Fusiliers 90 are new turbo Jagers.


From watching tests (If I recall correctly), from worst to best:

Type 73/Bren -> Standardized line MG (i.e. M60/PKM) -> L86 -> Minimi/MG3 (they are close)

The real take away is BRs are better than ARs on line infantry. I can't remember the shock/elite tests off the top of my head.

Re: MG rebalance complete list

Posted: Tue 4 Oct 2016 05:26
by Killertomato
Type 73/Bren > Standardized line MG (i.e. M60/PKM) > L86 > Minimi/MG3 (they are close)


MFW Bren is better than the guns that replaced it.

Re: MG rebalance complete list

Posted: Tue 4 Oct 2016 05:28
by Admiral Piett
Killertomato wrote:MFW Bren is better than the guns that replaced it.


LOL. Nah, I just had a momentous brain fart and got my greater than, less than signs mixed up. I need to go to bed.....

Re: MG rebalance complete list

Posted: Tue 4 Oct 2016 05:29
by Killertomato
Admiral Piett wrote:
Killertomato wrote:MFW Bren is better than the guns that replaced it.


LOL. Nah, I just had a momentous brain fart and got my greater than, less than signs mixed up. I need to go to bed.....


Oh... well, at least L86 is worse than the gun that replaced it. :lol:

Re: MG rebalance complete list

Posted: Tue 4 Oct 2016 05:33
by Admiral Piett
Killertomato wrote:Oh... well, at least L86 is worse than the gun that replaced it. :lol:


Hahahaha. The Bren + BR infantry beat AR + Standard MG infantry handily. However, the Type 73 (a Bren stat clone) + AR lost to standard line infantry (American rifles), but it was fairly close. The real take away from the tests is that BRs are great.