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Re: MG rebalance complete list

Postby codextero » Tue 4 Oct 2016 07:09

kiheerSEDMAN wrote:I'd reserve thoughts on the MG rebalance until it releases.

axnone wrote:you're not suggesting relying solely on machbet and stinger cobras for anti-helo are you ?
You should have seen ALB W.Germ. :lol:

But yeah, Israel's anti-helo AA isn't great.


Machbet is probably the best bluefor SPAAG right now. Considerably higher roll count than Gepard C. It will shred helicopters fairly easily, the problem is keeping it close to the tanks.

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Hahahaha. The Bren + BR infantry beat AR + Standard MG infantry handily. However, the Type 73 (a Bren stat clone) + AR lost to standard line infantry (American rifles), but it was fairly close. The real take away from the tests is that BRs are great.


Simple, nerf BR suppression to 40. BRs are not supposed to have better suppression than AR's, it's one of their big IRL drawbacks.

Also line infantry ammo load for the MG is absurdly low. They often run out of MG ammo before killing each other, and that's just sad.

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Re: MG rebalance complete list

Postby KattiValk » Tue 4 Oct 2016 07:38

codextero wrote:Machbet is probably the best bluefor SPAAG right now. Considerably higher roll count than Gepard C. It will shred helicopters fairly easily, the problem is keeping it close to the tanks.
It's a really good SPAAG, but having a PIVADS on steroids does not make a comprehensive ADN. Machbet will never shut down airspace for rotary wing as well as HQ-7s will on anything but the closest in environments and helo blobs, either of which the base PIVADS arguably does as well for cheaper.

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Re: MG rebalance complete list

Postby Razzmann » Tue 4 Oct 2016 08:29

Why does the Machbet have 8 stinger Cs btw?

Gepard, PGZ-95 only have 4. Giving them 8 too would make them a lot better, especially the PGZ.

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Postby webboy_998 » Tue 4 Oct 2016 12:26

Razzmann wrote:Why does the Machbet have 8 stinger Cs btw?

Gepard, PGZ-95 only have 4. Giving them 8 too would make them a lot better, especially the PGZ.


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Re: MG rebalance complete list

Postby [EUG]MadMat » Tue 4 Oct 2016 12:32

Razzmann wrote:Why does the Machbet have 8 stinger Cs btw?

Gepard, PGZ-95 only have 4. Giving them 8 too would make them a lot better, especially the PGZ.


One way or the other (Machbet having an extra salvo or the others lacking one), it will be fixed in a next patch.

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Postby Razzmann » Tue 4 Oct 2016 12:40

[EUG]MadMat wrote:
Razzmann wrote:Why does the Machbet have 8 stinger Cs btw?

Gepard, PGZ-95 only have 4. Giving them 8 too would make them a lot better, especially the PGZ.


One way or the other (Machbet having an extra salvo or the others lacking one), it will be fixed in a next patch.

I'd prefer the latter one :)

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Re: MG rebalance complete list

Postby axnone » Tue 4 Oct 2016 15:06

Israel seriously lacks infared AA.I mean, a SEAD could shut your whole ADN down. Machbet is strong indeed but still vulnerable to SEAD,that is one huge drawback of Israel.

honestly IMO this is fine, disadvantages are needed for balance purpose.
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Re: MG rebalance complete list

Postby fox_the_apprentice » Tue 4 Oct 2016 16:13

axnone wrote:Israel seriously lacks infared AA.I mean, a SEAD could shut your whole ADN down. Machbet is strong indeed but still vulnerable to SEAD,that is one huge drawback of Israel.

honestly IMO this is fine, disadvantages are needed for balance purpose.

I'll wait to judge, but I feel the disadvantage might be a bit extreme. 2 hours to download time!

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Postby Killertomato » Tue 4 Oct 2016 16:47

Machbet should have PIVADS stats but no RAD, not an acc boost.
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Postby Bullfrog » Thu 6 Oct 2016 03:38

Is the only difference between 75 and 90s inf unit their AT now?
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