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Re: MG rebalance complete list

Posted: Sat 3 Dec 2016 10:54
by rubik33
JoonasTo wrote:If you want tiers it's like this

Excellent:
Minimi, Negev, Stoner
MG3, M53 Sarac

Very Good:
KvKK, Colt LMG

Good:
RPK-74, Lada-RPK, Type 81
RPK, M78
LMG944, Galil Arm

Medium:
Standardised MGs

Bad:
FALO, C2A1 Airborne variant
L86

Poor:
Bren L4, Type 73, C2A1 Pathfinder variant
KG m/37


Yeah if your infantry has a 55 suppression MG and you can pick between an SMG, AR and a BR, always go with the BR first, AR second, SMG last because the combined suppression is very important in forests. BR+MG3 is especially good.

Carbine is also the best weapon you can get for your infantry so if you have choice between a carbine and anything else, get the carbine. Carbine+Minimi beats BR+MG3.
Numbers say Carbine+MG3 should beat Carbine+Minimi but I'm not 100% certain on that. Someone should test that out.


Are they all calculated at max range? Might be interesting to scale the number to, say forrest combat distance 307m so between 350 and 245. Mix in damage reduction modifier, which would reduce the importance of dps in relation to suppression, the results would be quite interesting

Re: MG rebalance complete list

Posted: Sat 3 Dec 2016 11:55
by Razzmann
codextero wrote:
JoonasTo wrote:Minimi is the best MG in the game, period.
At 15 pt and 16AP Diggers are pretty costly though. Sure they'll beat any line infantry they come up against but pretty much all shock infantry will wipe the floor with them and with Commandos '90 available for 20pt I don't know why you'd ever buy them.


l.MG3 is still overall a lot better because of that sweet 55 suppression, especially on Battle rifle units.

I think Battle Rifle + Minimi would win though, the extra 10% accuracy are a big deal. This combination does not exist though...

Re: MG rebalance complete list

Posted: Wed 7 Dec 2016 11:45
by rubik33
How come Norlandjagere has an elite machinegun, 15 man at 25 points :lol: . Wouldn't they murder most other shock troops at that price range?

Re: MG rebalance complete list

Posted: Wed 7 Dec 2016 16:09
by CandyMan
DPRK 15 man marines are 25 pts and are far worse. I wish there was a intermediate rpg between rpg-7 and type III. Then the 12 rpg they carry might be worth something. Seems 18 ap is given like candy to bluefor 75 units.

Re: MG rebalance complete list

Posted: Wed 7 Dec 2016 16:59
by keldon
CandyMan wrote:DPRK 15 man marines are 25 pts and are far worse. I wish there was a intermediate rpg between rpg-7 and type III. Then the 12 rpg they carry might be worth something. Seems 18 ap is given like candy to bluefor 75 units.


Wait for my updated list, coming tommorow of the day after.