[Red Dragon] NATION PACK: ISRAEL + patch (v47860)

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Postby codextero » Wed 5 Oct 2016 18:37

remilia019 wrote:Dammit Razz!! so its your fault my NSWP doesn't can't into MurderSchutzen spam anymore?!

Also Lu Zhandui needs a step further in pts buff =/


what do you mean? I'm looking at the game right now and BMP-1 SP1 is still 10 points, but now 3AV so immune to PZF-44 and M72A4. You can spam better mot shutzen, but you can spam only 15% less of them.

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Postby Razzmann » Wed 5 Oct 2016 18:48

codextero wrote:
remilia019 wrote:Dammit Razz!! so its your fault my NSWP doesn't can't into MurderSchutzen spam anymore?!

Also Lu Zhandui needs a step further in pts buff =/


what do you mean? I'm looking at the game right now and BMP-1 SP1 is still 10 points, but now 3AV so immune to PZF-44 and M72A4. You can spam better mot shutzen, but you can spam only 15% less of them.

Base abailability got reduced too. But yeah, the BMP-1 should be 15pts.

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Postby Razzmann » Wed 5 Oct 2016 19:06

Oktoberfest wrote:Last but not least, why is the RPM of the Leclerc reduced to 11?

It is a display erroe, it still has 12.

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Postby Bougnas » Wed 5 Oct 2016 19:30

Oktoberfest wrote:Hello Eugen,

Why the armor upgrade on the amx-10P, though? The resistance of the armor was 23 mm front and 14.5 side. I am not sure it therefore deserves 3/2/1/1.


Thank you very much


Eugen has changed the armor scale for poorly armored vehicles.
We now have
7.62/5.56 protection=1AV
12.7mm=2AV
14.5mm=3AV
20mm/23mm (not sure about the 23mm protection tho)=4AV
30mm=5AV (IIRC)

Anything better either have AV bonii depending on the improvements they got (like the CV 9030N getting 6AV because of the MEXAS add on armor) or use the tank scale.
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Postby Ultimaratio » Wed 5 Oct 2016 20:12

Nice DLC and Patch. Good to see that the game is still something you care about.

Can someone explain how the mgs now work? and Eugen pls consider to give RIMA to Mot decks as the IDF have their Marines too.
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Postby Baldix » Wed 5 Oct 2016 20:50

I still dont know what I should think about the IFV-rework... it somehow the wrong direction where this is going to.

Probably not balancing around some RL stats of the armor, but rather the AT-weopoen values of ingame units (balance > realismn) would be good.
The border values for being not 1-shoted by cheap/med/high end weopens is essential for the usefullness/role ingame.

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Re: [Red Dragon] NATION PACK: ISRAEL + patch (v47860)

Postby BadsharkDK » Wed 5 Oct 2016 21:15

Razzmann wrote:
codextero wrote:
remilia019 wrote:Dammit Razz!! so its your fault my NSWP doesn't can't into MurderSchutzen spam anymore?!

Also Lu Zhandui needs a step further in pts buff =/


what do you mean? I'm looking at the game right now and BMP-1 SP1 is still 10 points, but now 3AV so immune to PZF-44 and M72A4. You can spam better mot shutzen, but you can spam only 15% less of them.

Base abailability got reduced too. But yeah, the BMP-1 should be 15pts.


BMP-1 to 15pts, and give Eastern Block availability bonus back to 15% all are happy :) maybe

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Postby fox_the_apprentice » Wed 5 Oct 2016 21:56

kiheerSEDMAN wrote:I'm looking at Bradley optics nerfs and getting the distinct impression we're going in the wrong direction.

+1, though the rest of the patch looks good!

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Postby Gorganhound » Wed 5 Oct 2016 23:22

GBNATO wrote:Oooooh I know how you can fix the Paras Eugen.

Give them the L86, they've got neither a Bren nor a Minimi model on them anyway, it's an L7A2 :D

I would also like to further my line of inquiry regarding the L86, how in DeGaulle's name did the L86 end up with the highest RpM in the game, on a regular infantry unit no less?

I'm not complaining, just seems like an uncharacteristically generous buff on Eugen's part. Is it an oversight?

Was part of the MG standardization. Automatic rifle types have small shot intervals but need to reload often
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Re: [Red Dragon] NATION PACK: ISRAEL + patch (v47860)

Postby RoadkillRodger » Thu 6 Oct 2016 00:19

Has anybody tested out the Patriot lately? I wonder if it can hit with its second missile now.

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