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Re: Israeli DLC Bug Thread.

Postby Razzmann » Sat 22 Oct 2016 11:06

ZPT-90 is a KBA-25?

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Re: Israeli DLC Bug Thread.

Postby Narcissistic Black » Sat 22 Oct 2016 11:31

Bougnas wrote:You can remove the ZSD-531A armor inconsistency as it has been fixed.

Here is a list of some inconsistencies we noticed for the Dragons:

Blue Dragons:

- The Japanese Hayate CV and the Kin Sam Closed Arrow didn't get 10HP like other Humvee variants.
- The K263 doesn't have 2 side armor althought it is based on the K200.
- The KAFV 90 has 2 rear armor althought it should have 1 like other K200 variants.


Added.

Red Dragons:

- The ZSD-90 should cost 20pts (compare with the TH-495.)


This is balance. But also the TH-495 is over priced. it should be 15. (compare to M2 Bradley) make a thread.

- the Chinese ZPT-90 gun should have 30% accuracy like other KBA variants, also justified because the ZSD-90 will get more expensive.


KBA is a NATO thing not a Chinese thing please elaborate

- the NK Su-25K should have 2 rear armor because it is post-1987.


Please explain the logic behind this.

- NK MiG21 ATGM plane availability doesn't make sense regarding the pricing and capability of the aircraft


Which one?

- F-7b availability is 5/4/0/3/0 not 6/5/4/0/3 like china's mig.


Added.

- PGZ-63 lacks anti-aircraft range like other similar vehicles.


This was already on the list.

- NK shilkas 40 speed when the Russian Afganski with added weight is 50


Added.

- NK Su-7BMK cost the same despite being worse than Soviet MiG-21Bis


Balance not a bug. GO MAKE A THREAD.

- PGZ-95 has very slow rate of fire for its QW-2 manpad (6 seconds between shot), unlike every other gun/manpad combo. This is still not fixed, despite what the patchlog says.


Added.

- BJ-212 PWL-78 has the wrong weapon, the model is type-75 105mm RR


Clarification needed.
Are you saying that this vehicle IRL was mounted with this new weapon?
or
That the model in game has this weapon mounted and there for this should be the weapon equipped to it?

- All J-7 variants, except the J-7C, have the wrong gun. It should be type-30-I 30mm cannon.


Added.

- NK Jeonchaldae (sniper team) should have 95% acc on their sniper rifle


Already on the list.

- PL-11 should get 60% accuracy like the ground based HQ-61 (both use the seeker of the Italian Selenia Aspide missile from 1985).


Added.

- J-7C should get 20% ecm like the MiG-21MF it is based on


Why? What kind of RWR,ECM jammar does it carry to deserve ECM.

and J-7H should be reroled into J-7D as the direct successor with 30% ecm. For more details visit viewtopic.php?p=970200#p970200


THIS. IS. NOT. A. BUG.


- Chonma 5 should have a 115mm gun instead of a 125mm one, and it should lose autoloader and 1 HE (never had this gun and autoloader IRL, Eugen mixed the Chonma-92, wrongly named as CH III, IV and V, with post-2000 variants that had the 125mm gun)


Proof? Wiki claims otherwise. #ProveWikiWrong


- the mortar variants of the VTT-323 should have 2 FAV.


Added.

- the Type 85 Susong Po tank destroyer has wrong stats, it should have the same as other VTT-323 (2FAV, 500km autonomy, 65 kph speed).


Added.

- The YW-701 command vehicles have 2FAV althought they are based on the ZSD-531A/63A. They should have 1FAV and be price buffed.


Doesn't this also apply to the Chinese Command vehicle ZZZ-701??

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Re: Israeli DLC Bug Thread.

Postby Razzmann » Sat 22 Oct 2016 12:04

Narcissistic Black wrote:
- the NK Su-25K should have 2 rear armor because it is post-1987.


Please explain the logic behind this.

Something about Su-25s produced from 1986 (or some year around that) onwards have improved rear armour. Xeno also mentioned this:
viewtopic.php?f=155&t=58281&p=978827&hilit=rear#p978827 (no time to search for where he mentioned the exact date and such).

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Re: Israeli DLC Bug Thread.

Postby Zaskow » Sat 22 Oct 2016 12:34

Narcissistic Black wrote:[

- NK MiG21 ATGM plane availability doesn't make sense regarding the pricing and capability of the aircraft


Which one?



Both.
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Re: Israeli DLC Bug Thread.

Postby keldon » Sat 22 Oct 2016 14:01

Razzmann wrote:ZPT-90 is a KBA-25?


No, it is based on the 23mm Soviet AA gun, if you look for rpm, the most comparable is Skrezhet.

Narcissistic Black wrote:Clarification needed.
Are you saying that this vehicle IRL was mounted with this new weapon?
or
That the model in game has this weapon mounted and there for this should be the weapon equipped to it?


Case 2 is correct. ingame model has the wrong weapon. The gun is far too large to be the 82mm RR.
http://www.zgjunshi.com/Article/UploadF ... 252987.jpg

- J-7C should get 20% ecm like the MiG-21MF it is based on

Why? What kind of RWR,ECM jammar does it carry to deserve ECM.


It is a MiG-21MF, with rear facing RWR and flare launcher

- The YW-701 command vehicles have 2FAV althought they are based on the ZSD-531A/63A. They should have 1FAV and be price buffed.

Doesn't this also apply to the Chinese Command vehicle ZZZ-701??


It shoul be also applied to the Chinese one.
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Re: Israeli DLC Bug Thread.

Postby Xeno426 » Sat 22 Oct 2016 20:44

Narcissistic Black wrote:
- the NK Su-25K should have 2 rear armor because it is post-1987.


Please explain the logic behind this.

The experience of Afghanistan got the Soviets to add a large armor plate between the engines of the Su-25, both many in the field and also all Su-25s built in the factory after 1986. After this change, no further Su-25s were lost to Stingers.

Narcissistic Black wrote:
- PGZ-63 lacks anti-aircraft range like other similar vehicles.


This was already on the list.

It also had a thread of its own. MadMat responded with a negative.

Narcissistic Black wrote:
- NK Su-7BMK cost the same despite being worse than Soviet MiG-21Bis


Balance not a bug. GO MAKE A THREAD.

Well, it could be considered an oversight.
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Re: Israeli DLC Bug Thread.

Postby Razzmann » Sat 22 Oct 2016 20:49

Xeno426 wrote:
Narcissistic Black wrote:
- NK Su-7BMK cost the same despite being worse than Soviet MiG-21Bis


Balance not a bug. GO MAKE A THREAD.

Well, it could be considered an oversight.

Or inconsistency.

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Re: Israeli DLC Bug Thread.

Postby wubby » Tue 25 Oct 2016 01:32

Dear Eugen,

Firstly thanks for new DLC adding some new fun to game.

I think this is a minor inconsistency rather than a bug; but due to informal rule where tanks with thermal optics have medium optics 80 point Merkeva IIb should have medium optics to distinguish it from 85 point infantry carrying Merkeva IIa. This is because Merkeva IIb has thermal optics added whereas Merkeva IIa does not. It would probably help to also differentiate more the Merkeva IIa from the Merkeva IIb.

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Re: Israeli DLC Bug Thread.

Postby zeeyoo » Wed 26 Oct 2016 10:52

Sholef(120pts SPG) is 10-second(modernized) one, but unlocked at mechanized.

Israel's airborne '75 using RPG-7V, even soviet marine '75 using RPG-7. what happened to these guys?

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Re: Israeli DLC Bug Thread.

Postby ToTheMetal » Wed 26 Oct 2016 14:41

I overlooked Chonma V last time, and so did Eugen. It's not only available in Motorised but also in Marines.
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