Underperforming israel units

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Underperforming israel units

Postby throwaway » Thu 6 Oct 2016 16:34

ISRAEL OP, but what are some units that aren't so OP?

The AA recon could go down to 40 IMO.

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Re: Underperforming israel units

Postby codextero » Thu 6 Oct 2016 17:07

You can make an argument that ra'am is too expensive compared to Gr.7. 30 points for 2 more SRAAM, 50% ECM, and 150 kph speed

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Re: Underperforming israel units

Postby Operation Ivy » Thu 6 Oct 2016 17:17

The Tzanhanim and Tzanhanim '95 aren't great for 20/25 points. I only tested them against against VDV '90 but they lose quite significantly and have the far inferior AT weapon.

That is however fine and by no means a reason to rebalance stuff.

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Re: Underperforming israel units

Postby Borscht » Thu 6 Oct 2016 17:34

Honestly, having inf units of the same type that perform the same would kill the flavor. Look at all the rage about that's happening around Maglan for example and just like you said, lackluster paras.
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Postby Razzmann » Thu 6 Oct 2016 17:34

Operation Ivy wrote:The Tzanhanim and Tzanhanim '95 aren't great for 20/25 points. I only tested them against against VDV '90 but they lose quite significantly and have the far inferior AT weapon.

That is however fine and by no means a reason to rebalance stuff.

I think that is mainly a problem of the 5point system.

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Re: Underperforming israel units

Postby Operation Ivy » Thu 6 Oct 2016 17:47

Razzmann wrote:I think that is mainly a problem of the 5point system.


Probably..like in many other discussions going on at the moment. For the sake of not going off topic i guess the whole 5 point system deserves its own Thread if there isn't already one

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Re: Underperforming israel units

Postby Razzmann » Thu 6 Oct 2016 17:50

Operation Ivy wrote:
Razzmann wrote:I think that is mainly a problem of the 5point system.


Probably..like in many other discussions going on at the moment. For the sake of not going off topic i guess the whole 5 point system deserves its own Thread if there isn't already one

I believe there have been many over the last years. It just won't change in this game.

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Postby Mighty_Zuk » Thu 6 Oct 2016 18:08

Are Tzanhanim (reg or '95) even viable with the existence of the Givati which has better MG, better HP and better ammo count?

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Postby Admiral Piett » Thu 6 Oct 2016 18:37

Mighty_Zuk wrote:Are Tzanhanim (reg or '95) even viable with the existence of the Givati which has better MG, better HP and better ammo count?


They are both viable. It really depends if you want the extra AT punch or the increased utility against infantry (at least on paper, idk how the MGs compare).

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Re: Underperforming israel units

Postby 中铁四局 » Thu 6 Oct 2016 18:51

Israel land-based anti-air is painfully underpowered.....
All viable nation/coalition have either long range non-Radar anti-helo such as Crotale, Tungska, Chapprel M48A3, or Unicorn long range anti Airplane AA such as patriot or RAD-Free Hawk, but israel had non of them, the air defense of IDF is painful....


I suggest eugen give US M48A3 chaparral equivalent to IDF, IDF anti-helo is hopeless.......

Underperforming units? Pereh, Hafiz is a so much better choice than the overpriced Pereh,
suggested change, Pereh speed 50-->60km, armor 6-8, price stayed.

Underperforming units? Merkava 2B is living in the shadow of Merkava 2A.
Merkava III B is underperforming, yes it has AGL, but whos gonna brawling with a 155pt tank? 20AP is a huge let-down.
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