Killertomato wrote:Most of it ain't too good, though. The TR-85 specifically is a T-55AMV at best... You can do a lot with infantry, of course, but there are gaping holes.
This is a very common bias and it isn't true. Even first model, TR-77-580 was very different of T-55AMV, it had better armor (320 mm frontal), stratified as opposed with T-55 and was constantly upgraded (new FCS, re-designed turret with more space for ammo so better ROF); even T-55s were upgraded with some Romanian stuff and the old Soviet was reused / or intended to be used to upgrade T-34s and SU-100s (projects stopped due to 1989). The next design, TR-85 is even better and would make a good medium, between 75-85 pts with stratified composite armor (400 mm), tungsten warhead AP (Romania produce sizeable quantities of tungsten), modern FCS.
TR-125 is a design which incorporate tungsten in armor composition, a really good gun etc.
The issue with Romanian tanks was the interdiction from middle 80s forward to use any imported parts or materials and to produce them locally took too much time (e.g. put into production new productions lines).
Another argument to add Romania is that it can fit into an coalition with Yugoslavia thus not so much headaches or can bring an entirely new and different coalition with Bulgaria which can add to Romania especially in the gaps than of an eventual deck(e.g. more IFVs, SPAAGs, shock mechanized infantry, long range AA S-300, modern tube arty).