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Re: [DOUBLE NATION PACK: REDS] A preview into Finland ...

Postby BadsharkDK » Fri 18 Nov 2016 16:32

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BadsharkDK wrote:prototype XA-185KT with Bushmaster II is going to be really good :) can already hear people complain.
Bushmaster II on a fast vehicle.
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But Eugen can not find any information about XA-185KRKK with AGS-17?
Is it in the real world? Do you have any documents about it ?


The cradle used to mount the 12.7 NSV MG on the xa series could also mount other weaponry, among them the 30mm AGS (bought in 1993) and nowadays the 40mm H&K (bought in 2005)

like so from a parade picture in 2010:

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Okay Thx :)

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Postby morpher » Fri 18 Nov 2016 16:45

Emmm, so the reason Finland mechanized units will be weak is "ATGM-less BMP-1 & BMP-2"?

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Postby [EUG]MadMat » Fri 18 Nov 2016 16:47

morpher wrote:Emmm, so the reason Finland mechanized units will be weak is "ATGM-less BMP-1 & BMP-2"?

If you pay attention to what I exactly wrote, I never said it was "weak", but "lackluster". ;)

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Postby HrcAk47 » Fri 18 Nov 2016 16:56

Actually, that's a really attractive feature, half of what makes EGer good is cheap 10pt BMP-1s. 15 pt BMP-2? Yes please!

Finland will be very interesting to play, to say the least.
The SEAD never bothered me anyway.

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Re: [DOUBLE NATION PACK: REDS] A preview into Finland ...

Postby morpher » Fri 18 Nov 2016 16:57

[EUG]MadMat wrote:
morpher wrote:Emmm, so the reason Finland mechanized units will be weak is "ATGM-less BMP-1 & BMP-2"?

If you pay attention to what I exactly wrote, I never said it was "weak", but "lackluster". ;)


True, but what I meant is that having ATGM-less BMPs is not only not lackluster but it is an advantage as their price in not increased by the atgm tax. Right now one of the best mech transport is the East. Germ BMP-1 without ATGM.

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Postby [EUG]MadMat » Fri 18 Nov 2016 16:59

morpher wrote:True, but what I meant is that having ATGM-less BMPs is not only not lackluster but it is an advantage as their price in not increased by the atgm tax. Right now one of the best mech transport is the East. Germ BMP-1 without ATGM.

What makes it lackluster is the fact that tracked transport choices are restricted to one of each BTR-50, BMP-1 & BMP-2.
Being ATGM-less is a detail I gave.

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Postby morpher » Fri 18 Nov 2016 17:04

[EUG]MadMat wrote:
morpher wrote:True, but what I meant is that having ATGM-less BMPs is not only not lackluster but it is an advantage as their price in not increased by the atgm tax. Right now one of the best mech transport is the East. Germ BMP-1 without ATGM.

What makes it lackluster is the fact that tracked transport choices are restricted to one of each BTR-50, BMP-1 & BMP-2.
Being ATGM-less is a detail I gave.


Ah ok, got it.

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Re: [DOUBLE NATION PACK: REDS] A preview into Finland ...

Postby Wirri » Fri 18 Nov 2016 17:04

[EUG]MadMat wrote:
morpher wrote:True, but what I meant is that having ATGM-less BMPs is not only not lackluster but it is an advantage as their price in not increased by the atgm tax. Right now one of the best mech transport is the East. Germ BMP-1 without ATGM.

What makes it lackluster is the fact that tracked transport choices are restricted to one of each BTR-50, BMP-1 & BMP-2.
Being ATGM-less is a detail I gave.

So it's just detail and not fact-based?
Will be interesting, hopefully fun, Unless they're same price as normal BMP1/2s
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Postby Tiera » Fri 18 Nov 2016 17:07

It is fact-based, ATGM launchers were initially distributed to infantry brigades. As a sidenote the ATGM-less BMP-2s are Obr. 1986 variant, as they were bought on a time when the original variant was no longer in production.
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Postby Wirri » Fri 18 Nov 2016 17:09

Tiera wrote:As a sidenote the ATGM-less BMP-2s are Obr. 1986 variant, as they were bought on a time when the original variant was no longer in production.

What does this mean ingame?

EDIT: Looked into it ingame and it seems like ATGM-less BMP-2 Obr 1986 would be really cool. There aren't really any good autocannon tracked transports in redfor without ATGMs.
Oh and eugen, I'm proposing you with a FIX, FIX BMP-2 Obr. 1986s name from BMP- 2 Obr. 1986 to BMP-2 Obr. 1986, The space makes it hard trying to search for the vehicle.
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