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Postby nuke92 » Tue 22 Nov 2016 14:29

Or just Slavija instead of Panslavic. But it sounds weird.

You could call it Antanta 68, that way Entente of WW1 isn't the first thing to come to mind, the 68 is only a link to this alliance that could have been formed. There just aren't other fancy names, that are linked to treaties. Little Entente is lame :?

So Antanta 68, better?
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Postby steppewolf » Tue 22 Nov 2016 14:30

Better not mix inter war stuff

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Postby Boz » Tue 22 Nov 2016 14:31

PSE has a nice sound to it. I vote for PanSlavic Entente ;)

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What in the name of all that is war-like is "Swiss intell"?
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Postby eR_Spectre » Tue 22 Nov 2016 14:34

Yugoslavia + CSSR:

Nova Dohoda
New Entente, New in official Serb-Croatian (Jugoslavian) female form and Entente in Czech/Slovakian. I think this would be ok, maybe a little bit more Czechslovakish than Yugoslav, as female form of New is Nová in both Czech and Slovakian. But I believe the Nova Dohoda is reasonable and well founded name and also acceptable from point of view of Czech/Slovak and Serb/Croatian language.

Dohoda - Antanta
Entente in Czech/Slovakian and official Jugoslavian. Also reference to the pre WWII treaty between CSSR, Yugoslavia (and missing Romania). Could be also used "Dohoda - Dogovor" as Dogovor is Entente in Serb and Croatian.

As back-up names I would use the original historical Small Entente or just Entente in English.



Finland + Poland:

Baltic Pact - I agree with others that pact seems more appropriate than Alliance. Alliance is kinda blueish.
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Postby steppewolf » Tue 22 Nov 2016 14:34

Boz wrote:What in the name of all that is war-like is "Swiss intell"?


Swiss intelligence :)

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Postby nuke92 » Tue 22 Nov 2016 14:48

Nova Dohoda
Dohoda - Antanta
Antanta 68
Dohoda 68
damn so many nice options :shock:

Entente sounds too WW1.
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Postby Boz » Tue 22 Nov 2016 15:00

steppewolf wrote:
Boz wrote:What in the name of all that is war-like is "Swiss intell"?


Swiss intelligence :)


Yeah ok but how does it work? :D

Do they send the red cross and broadcast enemy military positions??
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Postby kish » Tue 22 Nov 2016 15:00

Chukoslavic Alliance ;)

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Postby eR_Spectre » Tue 22 Nov 2016 15:15

Please don't suggest names as Entente 68, Antanta 68 or Dohoda 68...
At first to have a year/number in coalition name is just silly (hey, what about Eurocorps 1945 (!), Red Dragons 1950), second to use year of Soviet occupation of CSSR in that coalition is perverse.

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Postby steppewolf » Tue 22 Nov 2016 15:22

Boz wrote:
steppewolf wrote:
Boz wrote:What in the name of all that is war-like is "Swiss intell"?


Swiss intelligence :)


Yeah ok but how does it work? :D

Do they send the red cross and broadcast enemy military positions??


Spoiler : :
Actually Cold War Swiss military intelligence was quite good. Since they lacked conventional means to face a full scale war, it had to compensate somewhere else. Military intelligence service was known as Untergruppe Nachrichtendienst und Abwehr. It was very active in the area, especially in Austria and Italy. Moreover Austrians caught in the '70s a Swiss officer in some military maneuvers.

Like Austria and Belgium, Switzerland is one of the countries with the highest density of intelligence officers and agents per square kilometer due to the many international organizations. In World War II both OSS (by Alan Dulles) and Soviet military service (by Rudolf Roessler) acted in neighbouring Germany in using neutral Switzerland. In addition, the Swiss banking system housed operational funds from all latitudes and longitudes.

In the information field Switzerland boasts one of the most powerful SIGINT systems in Europe: Onyx.

During Cold War it was quite active in intelligence field and organisation of eventual guerilla movements in case of Soviet attack over Europe.

In the face of danger red in the middle of the Cold War, the Swiss could not stand idly by, so UNA boss, Colonel Bachmann founded a network of reserves, in cooperation with the British service MI-6. The network was called Projekt-26, and her boss was appointed in 1979 Colonel Efrem Cattelan (aka "Rico"). For communication were purchased 200 advanced radios Harpoon M AEG FS-5000 (shortwave) .After 18 months, the network was operational. In the central structure were new instructors - including two officers and seven noncommissioned officers - three officers and staff. Instructors were trained in the United Kingdom in the SERE and sabotage, woth help from SAS and MI6.

"Base" was in the company of human resources AG Basel environmental consequences.

The total personnel should have in case of war reach 800 people willing in 80 regions.

In 1977 P-26 have subordinates 442 men and 57 women. In 1991 there were only 320 members, of which only 10% were fully trained. Besides the P-26 was established between 1981 and 1990 and P-27 (I don't know much about), with a similar scope.

P-26 network was divided on the principle chain (only residents knew bosses at the next level) and tasked with the fight against a possible Soviet invasion.

A cell comprised of 2-4 members (aged 45 and 50 years) concealed in various associations (Swiss Alpine Club, Masonic lodges, clubs etc). More cells formed a regional group of belonging and a radio operator, a specialist in psychological warfare, a specialist in logistics, courier and a specialist in damage.

Compulsory courses were shadowing, counter-shadowing, designing improvised explosives to be used on targets with high symbolic value. Preparation was done individually or in small groups of 3-4 days courses included modules deployed over the weekend. The curriculum contained 10 to 12 courses in total, in 30 to 40 days over 5 years.

Residents network equipment consists of radio station Cobra, batteries, battery charger, 4 kg gold, maps, a pistol P 225, 3 chargers, 120 cartridges, medical kit. After 1990 the network was made public and has ceased to exist. And this is what we know but probably it was a lot more so I wouldn't underestimated Swiss intel. Its defense doctrine was extensively studied by Romania and it was a pretty well known area.


Sorry for offtopic spoiler...

Well, I'd avoid Entente or reference to years as well, as first it wasn't an idea still viable in timeline of the game and 68 it's just too vague and doesn't have much significance for Yugo.

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