Top tier tank rebalance

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Top tier tank rebalance

Postby ziizii » Tue 29 Nov 2016 08:02

I must say now the top tier tank availability balance is queit big problem for the country like USA and USSR. czech got 3 morderna. but USA AND USSR have only 2 same tier tanks even though M1A2 and T72BU are bit stronger.It will be a big disadvantage when USSR against eurocorp and USA against yugoczech. So i think there should be a rebalance of top tier tank.

USA:
the availability of M1A2 changed from 2 to 3
remove M1A1HC
M1A1HA AP increased from 20 to 21

USSR:
the availability of T80U changed from 3 to 4
T80U AP increased from 20 to 21
T80UM front armor increased from 20 to 22
T80UM price increased from 165 to 180

EUROCOPR:
Leclerc tank availability changed from 3 to 2
L2A4 AP increased from 19 to 21
L2A4 tank availability changed from 5 to 4

UK:
Challenger1 MK3 availability changed from 3 to 4

Challenger1 MK3, L2A4, T80U,M1A1HA deck numbers changed from 2 to 1

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Re: Top tier tank rebalance

Postby Desty » Tue 29 Nov 2016 08:20

Units don't get removed and don't you dare touching the m1a1hc...how would the loss of the best marine tank be compensated by one m1a2?
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Re: Top tier tank rebalance

Postby another505 » Tue 29 Nov 2016 08:30

Please no...

can we have all super heavies back to 2 per card?
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Re: Top tier tank rebalance

Postby KattiValk » Tue 29 Nov 2016 08:41

Unless you want to invent magical nonexistent sabots, the US 120mm sabots you can choose from are 19/20 AP (originally meant to be 20, nerfed to 19 for balance in ALB, reverted for HA to make it less god awful), 22 AP, and 24/25 AP (nerfed for balance). Also, 3 per card M1A2 would be insane, no.

If you want to make the US tank tab get more heavies, you can:
  • M1A1HC to 22 AV.
  • M1A1HC to 24/25 AP.
  • M1A1HC to 2 cards.
  • M1A1HA to 22 AP.
  • M1A1HA to 4 cards.
  • M1A1 to 20 AP.
    Obviously not all at once. Just whichever is applicable.
That's about it. Technically, we could probably just make a new M1A1HC with the current HC stats and call it "USMC" or something.

General talk about how USSR tank rebalance will go seems to be drifting towards replacing the BU (read: nerfing) with the UM. You don't get much play room with USSR sabots.

Leo 2A4 isn't getting AP buffs anytime soon.

We don't really need more heavy tanks as long as they remain so hard to kill. Light decks already have a bad time of it.

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Re: Top tier tank rebalance

Postby ziizii » Tue 29 Nov 2016 08:51

Desty wrote:Units don't get removed and don't you dare touching the m1a1hc...how would the loss of the best marine tank be compensated by one m1a2?

just move M1A1 HA into marine deck

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Re: Top tier tank rebalance

Postby ziizii » Tue 29 Nov 2016 08:54

kiheerSEDMAN wrote:Unless you want to invent magical nonexistent sabots, the US 120mm sabots you can choose from are 19/20 AP (originally meant to be 20, nerfed to 19 for balance in ALB, reverted for HA to make it less god awful), 22 AP, and 24/25 AP (nerfed for balance). Also, 3 per card M1A2 would be insane, no.

If you want to make the US tank tab get more heavies, you can:
  • M1A1HC to 22 AV.
  • M1A1HC to 24/25 AP.
  • M1A1HC to 2 cards.
  • M1A1HA to 22 AP.
  • M1A1HA to 4 cards.
  • M1A1 to 20 AP.
    Obviously not all at once. Just whichever is applicable.
That's about it. Technically, we could probably just make a new M1A1HC with the current HC stats and call it "USMC" or something.

General talk about how USSR tank rebalance will go seems to be drifting towards replacing the BU (read: nerfing) with the UM. You don't get much play room with USSR sabots.

Leo 2A4 isn't getting AP buffs anytime soon.

We don't really need more heavy tanks as long as they remain so hard to kill. Light decks already have a bad time of it.


dutch and germany got 4 L2A5 , eurocorp have 2 L2A5 and 3 leclerc , UK has 3 Challeger 2. there is no any problem for USA got 3 M1A2

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Re: Top tier tank rebalance

Postby trotskygrad » Tue 29 Nov 2016 08:55

I'd just buff M1A2 AP to 25 again
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Re: Top tier tank rebalance

Postby KattiValk » Tue 29 Nov 2016 09:04

ziizii wrote:dutch and germany got 4 L2A5 , eurocorp have 2 L2A5 and 3 leclerc , UK has 3 Challeger 2. there is no any problem for USA got 3 M1A2
The M1A2 is already better than any other tank even with nerfed AP. The only tank that can claim to be better is Challe 2 due to AP capping at 30 and 3 per card Challe 2 really shouldn't be a thing to begin with.

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Re: Top tier tank rebalance

Postby ziizii » Tue 29 Nov 2016 09:06

kiheerSEDMAN wrote:
ziizii wrote:dutch and germany got 4 L2A5 , eurocorp have 2 L2A5 and 3 leclerc , UK has 3 Challeger 2. there is no any problem for USA got 3 M1A2
The M1A2 is already better than any other tank even with nerfed AP. The only tank that can claim to be better is Challe 2 due to AP capping at 30 and 3 per card Challe 2 really shouldn't be a thing to begin with.


1 AP advantage is a onlybit advantage

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Re: Top tier tank rebalance

Postby cheer up » Tue 29 Nov 2016 09:10

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