About the 2 New Mig-29

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About the 2 New Mig-29

Postby another505 » Mon 5 Dec 2016 03:24

I think the yugo one should be 5 more pts cheaper.

10 ecm just for 5 pts for high end planes is a really really cheap.

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About the Finnish Mig-29
Can we change it a Strike Bomber with HE? Both Finn and Poland lacks a strike bomber. And Finland already has 2 other ASF other than F-18c, and Poland could bring the price competitive medium ASF already.

Change it to
2xR-77 + 4 FAB-500, afaik, this loadout could be carried.
about 140-150 pts? 2 Per card
Since the finnish Mig-29 needs the R-77, iirc, from the finnish thread that Finland would buy Mig-29 and R-77 cause they really desire FnF MRAAM. I think keeping the R-77 would make it unique from the huge quantity of Mig-29s already ingame. Probably more too if Romania and Bulgaria gets ingame.


It would be a mix Mig-29m and Mig-29s of USSR. Very useful plane, the Mig-29S is a solid plane, not great, but decent.

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Re: About the 2 New Mig-29

Postby GunTotingDoofus » Mon 5 Dec 2016 11:03

Why does the finnish one have better speed and why does the M version turn faster than others? EDIT: and what is that medium stealth doing there.

About OP, i support it unless they can make the finnish mig shoot its missiles faster or make it markedly cheaper.
Its not worthy of a deck space as is.

Yugo plane price buff +1
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Re: About the 2 New Mig-29

Postby thenosh » Mon 5 Dec 2016 11:05

GunTotingDoofus wrote:Why is the finnish one have better speed and why does the M version turn faster than others?

About OP, i support it unless they can make the finnish mig shoot its missiles faster or make it markedly cheaper.
Its not worthy of a deck space as is.

Yugo plane price buff +1


The M version has vector thrust afaik. And I'd support the finnish mig-29 change into something useful. It just seems like a waste of model to me right now. :(
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Re: About the 2 New Mig-29

Postby Sir Typhoon » Mon 5 Dec 2016 11:32

another505 wrote:...


+1 for both proposals.

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I never understood why this plane has stealth. Explain me pls :?.

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Re: About the 2 New Mig-29

Postby urogard » Mon 5 Dec 2016 13:12

The pricing scheme of planes is all over the place. any attempt of a comprehensive and balanced pricing setup for all planes independent of nation is doomed to fail.

I know because I'm trying to run the numbers and you can't rely on any comparison if you don't know if said plane you're using for comparison is correctly priced in the first place...

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Re: About the 2 New Mig-29

Postby steppewolf » Mon 5 Dec 2016 14:38

Probably the Finnish MIG-29 is faster because it carries just two missiles, a plane with 2000 kg bombs load is normal to be somehow slower.

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Re: About the 2 New Mig-29

Postby axnone » Mon 5 Dec 2016 15:09

forgot the new chinese SU-27SK?
same price,10% acc nerf on both the SRAAM and MRAAM for just 2 more MRAAM? WTF :oops:
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Re: About the 2 New Mig-29

Postby Mike » Mon 5 Dec 2016 15:59

Sir Typhoon wrote:
another505 wrote:...


+1 for both proposals.

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I never understood why this plane has stealth. Explain me pls :?.


Left over flavor from ALB. I believe it has a RAM coating. It shouldn't have it anymore though compared to the Rafale and Super Bug.
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Re: About the 2 New Mig-29

Postby another505 » Mon 5 Dec 2016 16:04

Mike wrote:
Left over flavor from ALB. I believe it has a RAM coating. It shouldn't have it anymore though compared to the Rafale and Super Bug.

It doesnt have as much, though both displayed as medium stealth ingame. Nande showed through mod files that Mig29m has half of the stealth of a true medium stealth plane


about Finnish Mig-29
even if they buffed the fire rate of the missiles, I still prefer it to be a strike bomber with my reasoning in the OP.
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Re: About the 2 New Mig-29

Postby Sweedish_Gunner » Mon 5 Dec 2016 16:21

steppewolf wrote:Probably the Finnish MIG-29 is faster because it carries just two missiles, a plane with 2000 kg bombs load is normal to be somehow slower.


This isn't modelled on any other jets in-game. Pretty sure this is just an oversight.

And yeah make it an iron bomber with R-77's and I'll be all over that.
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