Spike MR (Maglan vs. PstOhj 94)

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Spike MR (Maglan vs. PstOhj 94)

Postby Markenzwieback » Mon 5 Dec 2016 13:20

If I remember correctly, the Spike MR got its firing noise increase quite a bit in order to make Maglan easier to spot with recon around. Back in the time when only Maglan had the Spike MR, this wasn't a real problem.

Now with the Finnish ATGM team also using the MR, I encountered several situations where its way easier to spot the PstOhj 94 than any other ATGM team (even the Dorban-LR for that matter) because of that. Can anyone check into the game files to look how the firing noise is managed for Maglan, PstOhj 94, Dorban-LR and other ATGMs and verify?
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Re: Spike MR (Maglan vs. PstOhj 94)

Postby kish » Mon 5 Dec 2016 13:52

why should they only screw with maglan?

why is everyones dream scenario that eugen cripples only Israels finest?

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Re: Spike MR (Maglan vs. PstOhj 94)

Postby JoonasTo » Mon 5 Dec 2016 14:44

I don't even have to check the files to tell you that you can't change the firing noise on the PstOhj 94 without giving them a new weapon unless you want to buff the Maglans. They use the same ammunition(weapon).

MR noise value is 3 while LR is 2. The LR also has 40% higher acceleration, same max speed though.
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Re: Spike MR (Maglan vs. PstOhj 94)

Postby Sgt._Pepper » Mon 5 Dec 2016 16:43

kish wrote:why should they only screw with maglan?

why is everyones dream scenario that eugen cripples only Israels finest?


Because the thing that needed nerfing was Maglan and not the Spike MR itself. There is no reason that the PstOhj 94 should have the same noise as the Maglan, that's not what the nerf was there for.
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Re: Spike MR (Maglan vs. PstOhj 94)

Postby Seryn » Mon 5 Dec 2016 17:27

Well I mean, they nerfed the Maglan, and you cried for the nerf under the pretense of "Self-Spotting Long-Range ATGMs, Now a non-Israeli nation comes along with this *exact* same weapon comes along for RED as a, You guessed it, SELF-SPOTTING LONG-RANGE STEALTH ATGM you want REDs buffed while keeping Maglan nerfed. K. I see clear REDFOR Bias here CONSIDERING MAGLAN IS AN ELITE HIGH-INVESTMENT, HIGH-MICRO COMMANDO SQUAD. Whereas the Fins have basic infantry operating it. Tell me more about why ATGM team should be buffed and the Commando ATGM team shouldn't be. *Grabs Cup o' Coffee*

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Re: Spike MR (Maglan vs. PstOhj 94)

Postby Mike » Mon 5 Dec 2016 17:54

kish wrote:why should they only screw with maglan?

why is everyones dream scenario that eugen cripples only Israels finest?


Still waiting on proper 10 man ATGM recon teams for other nations...
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Re: Spike MR (Maglan vs. PstOhj 94)

Postby Tiera » Mon 5 Dec 2016 19:36

Cavalry Scouts with stat-buffed Super Dragon and proper MG or a sniper rifle would be a nice start.
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Re: Spike MR (Maglan vs. PstOhj 94)

Postby Sigirdiwarth » Mon 5 Dec 2016 21:07

Mike wrote:Still waiting on proper 10 man ATGM recon teams for other nations...

Tiera wrote:Cavalry Scouts with stat-buffed Super Dragon and proper MG or a sniper rifle would be a nice start.

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Re: Spike MR (Maglan vs. PstOhj 94)

Postby Grabbed_by_the_Spets » Mon 5 Dec 2016 21:40

kish wrote:why should they only screw with maglan?

why is everyones dream scenario that eugen cripples only Israels finest?


Because Israel is a complete gimmick nation and people are getting sick of it?
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Re: Spike MR (Maglan vs. PstOhj 94)

Postby Admiral Piett » Mon 5 Dec 2016 21:58

If this is true then the regular ATGM should certainly have regular noise, if that is somehow possible without giving it to Maglans. Maglans are a fundamentally broken concept that should go straight to hell.

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