USA and USSR the superpowers... or not?

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Re: USA and USSR the superpowers... or not?

Postby Steamfunk » Thu 22 Dec 2016 16:40

Well, Tochka-U have 120km range against ATACMS Block I 128km, which pretty similar and still more that enough it terms of Wargame.


Fair enough, if it was in production before 1991 (and unlike Oka, not subject to any treaties).

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Postby GARGEAN » Thu 22 Dec 2016 16:52

Steamfunk wrote:
Fair enough, if it was in production before 1991 (and unlike Oka, not subject to any treaties).

Tested in 86-88, arrived in Army in 89.

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Re: USA and USSR the superpowers... or not?

Postby Mike » Sat 24 Dec 2016 00:03

GARGEAN wrote:
Steamfunk wrote:
Fair enough, if it was in production before 1991 (and unlike Oka, not subject to any treaties).

Tested in 86-88, arrived in Army in 89.


I'd still love it to be reroled as an HE M270.
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Postby GARGEAN » Sat 24 Dec 2016 00:16

Mike wrote:I'd still love it to be reroled as an HE M270.

Well, you know... OOTF)

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Re: USA and USSR the superpowers... or not?

Postby Mike » Sat 24 Dec 2016 00:22

GARGEAN wrote:
Mike wrote:I'd still love it to be reroled as an HE M270.

Well, you know... OOTF)


No, like normal, 12 shot HE MLRS. Not a TBM.
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Postby GARGEAN » Sat 24 Dec 2016 00:30

Mike wrote:No, like normal, 12 shot HE MLRS. Not a TBM.

And this is OOTF))) M270 was cluster only until 21 century.

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Re: USA and USSR the superpowers... or not?

Postby Mike » Sat 24 Dec 2016 00:52

GARGEAN wrote:
Mike wrote:No, like normal, 12 shot HE MLRS. Not a TBM.

And this is OOTF))) M270 was cluster only until 21 century.


Timeframe OP, plz nerf.
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Re: USA and USSR the superpowers... or not?

Postby Guggy » Sat 24 Dec 2016 02:36

GARGEAN wrote:
Steamfunk wrote:Also applies to Redfor - look at all the crap bombers and the likes of Su-25, Su-25T - 200 points for 20% ECM?

Some discrepancies are real, like the US lack of wheeled transports and Soviet counter to ATACMS (Tochka lacks range, Oka is OP). That aside, it shouldn't be difficult to create a strong deck with US/USSR units within the timeframe.

Edit: And before anyone asks what I mean about the Oka, it is more like Pershing II in that it uses active radar and has a very small CEP.

Well, Tochka-U have 120km range against ATACMS Block I 128km, which pretty similar and still more that enough it terms of Wargame. Plus its accurasy is more than twice better, with 95-100m for Tochka-U and 225-250m for ATACMS. So, when in-game, Tochka-U should be able to hit exact building in town square.


Isnt ATACMS 10-50 meters CEP?

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Re: USA and USSR the superpowers... or not?

Postby Sweedish_Gunner » Sat 24 Dec 2016 03:10

GARGEAN wrote:
Mike wrote:No, like normal, 12 shot HE MLRS. Not a TBM.

And this is OOTF))) M270 was cluster only until 21 century.


The ATACMS should die regardles. It's shitty God tier meme units like that making it unfun to play versus the U.S.

Oh hey your tank got spotted for one second and you didn't realise? And it's gone.
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Re: USA and USSR the superpowers... or not?

Postby Mike » Sat 24 Dec 2016 03:49

Sweedish_Gunner wrote:
GARGEAN wrote:
Mike wrote:No, like normal, 12 shot HE MLRS. Not a TBM.

And this is OOTF))) M270 was cluster only until 21 century.


The ATACMS should die regardles. It's shitty God tier meme units like that making it unfun to play versus the U.S.

Oh hey your tank got spotted for one second and you didn't realise? And it's gone.


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