[Red Dragon] Patch (v.61340)
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Oh wow, CAR-15s and M727s are treated as carbines now. Finally!
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Re: [Red Dragon] Patch (v.61340)
Fantastic patch. SPG-9 and Saperzy Szturmowy in Moto is the highlight for me. FLAMES FOR THE FLAME GOD
This is strange though. Are the M-60's Šaracs unable to elevate or something?
OT M-60 series no longer has anti-helo range on the M-53 Šarac
This is strange though. Are the M-60's Šaracs unable to elevate or something?
Re: [Red Dragon] Patch (v.61340)

+16 much better missiles that fire on the move with pseudo F&F and +6 armor for 30 points is too good of a deal. The 80 points of the WZ was maybe warranted when it was the only 2975 ground ATGM in the game, but now? -10 price buff for it would fit quite nicely if there is a sense of Red Dragons still needing more help.
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Finally, USA has at least a C cat elite inf...
Why has only poor optics M2 and M2A1 if all M1 has medium...?
As long as AIM-9L has 4HE it should be eliminated from Tornado IDS. THey have no use.
I have no idea why still have not fixed the AIM-9L 4HE -->5HE as well as separation of AIM-7F and AIM-7M...
Why has only poor optics M2 and M2A1 if all M1 has medium...?
As long as AIM-9L has 4HE it should be eliminated from Tornado IDS. THey have no use.
I have no idea why still have not fixed the AIM-9L 4HE -->5HE as well as separation of AIM-7F and AIM-7M...
Re: [Red Dragon] Patch (v.61340)
Broth3r wrote:OT M-60 series no longer has anti-helo range on the M-53 Šarac
This is strange though. Are the M-60's Šaracs unable to elevate or something?
Working as intended, it fires through the port in the front armor. It can't elevate enough to durr helis in any reasonable scenario.
I am sad that the armor update for Yugo APCs/IFVs didn't pass through. They are considerably underarmored.
Also, some BVP M-80 based vehicles (Sava) should have IFV armor.
Oh well, maybe next time.
Re: [Red Dragon] Patch (v.61340)
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+16 much better missiles that fire on the move with pseudo F&F and +6 armor for 30 points is too good of a deal. The 80 points of the WZ was maybe warranted when it was the only 2975 ground ATGM in the game, but now? -10 price buff for it would fit quite nicely if there is a sense of Red Dragons still needing more help.
Wheeled with amphibious makes a huge difference when it comes to flanking with atgms. I do agree the power creep seems to be in effect, but I would rather the atgm loadout be brought up to 12 or 10 to make the unit itself a bit more effective.

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Re: [Red Dragon] Patch (v.61340)
argybargy wrote:+16 much better missiles that fire on the move with pseudo F&F and +6 armor for 30 points is too good of a deal. The 80 points of the WZ was maybe warranted when it was the only 2975 ground ATGM in the game, but now? -10 price buff for it would fit quite nicely if there is a sense of Red Dragons still needing more help.
There's nothing F&F about them, if you lose LoS or the Pereh gets knocked out the missile misses. The extra missiles are hardly a factor (never had one of these use more than half of them), it's really slow compared to the amphibious WZ-550 and that extra 10% accuracy is important. I'd say both are priced reasonably.
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Re: [Red Dragon] Patch (v.61340)
Welp, two units are going to disappear my deck, BMD-1 and ASU-85M. The 10pt price was fine, now they're overpriced. The Grom is bad, and the ASU is only useful as fire support. 15pts makes them both just not worth it. +1 armor isn't worth 5pts in a slow, bad transport.
Was also expecting to see Super Galeb get its speed dropped to 750km/h, am disappointed. It has a maximum speed of 920km/h clean, and this little Galeb has missiles strapped onto it, hardly "clean". It's still going to be a little wonderplane with its 60% acc missile.
Other than this, pretty good changes overall.
Was also expecting to see Super Galeb get its speed dropped to 750km/h, am disappointed. It has a maximum speed of 920km/h clean, and this little Galeb has missiles strapped onto it, hardly "clean". It's still going to be a little wonderplane with its 60% acc missile.
Other than this, pretty good changes overall.


Re: [Red Dragon] Patch (v.61340)
Patch looks interesting. My favorite change is the +5 point price increase on the 5 point and 10 point armored fire support. Followed by the prototyping of VTT-323 Hwasung-Chong.
The direct US changes are okay. I definitely like the addition of medium optics to the M1 and M1IP. AT-4 rocket +5% accuracy is nice too. Delta Force change is a small nerf since I used them in the pure anti-infantry support. However this opens them up to not requiring an escort for anti vehicle purposes.
Where did the Super Cobra change came from? I don't expect it to do as well as it used to, but time will tell.
The direct US changes are okay. I definitely like the addition of medium optics to the M1 and M1IP. AT-4 rocket +5% accuracy is nice too. Delta Force change is a small nerf since I used them in the pure anti-infantry support. However this opens them up to not requiring an escort for anti vehicle purposes.
Where did the Super Cobra change came from? I don't expect it to do as well as it used to, but time will tell.

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Re: [Red Dragon] Patch (v.61340)
Overall solid patch Eugen. I've noticed a distinct lack of doom-prophecies 


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