On T-72M2 Moderna and its FCS.

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Re: On T-72M2 Moderna and its FCS.

Postby another505 » Thu 12 Jan 2017 17:21

Sweedish_Gunner wrote:I like the idea but it's not worth loosing availability and an increase in price to get that accuracy. You'd just end up with a worse T-80UM for the same price, which would be in a worse spot than the current Moderna.

A 5% increase with no penalty on price or availability I can get behind.

I think the idea was that in NSWP decks the Moderna is the brute force tank and the Twardy is the sniper. If you buff the Moderna more you make the Twardy worse than it is.

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Re: On T-72M2 Moderna and its FCS.

Postby Vestly » Thu 12 Jan 2017 17:27

+1
Moderna definitely deserves 65-70% acc. It is realistic and from the game perspective it would allow Czechoslovakia to have a accurate tank without having to pick an armored deck type.

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Re: On T-72M2 Moderna and its FCS.

Postby Greyhound » Thu 12 Jan 2017 17:37

+1 Seems justified.
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Re: On T-72M2 Moderna and its FCS.

Postby Doinize » Thu 12 Jan 2017 17:59

Yeah 60% Acc would be fine, anything more would drive the price too high imo.

+5% could be done for +5 or even without price increase. 60% at least feels consistent.
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Re: On T-72M2 Moderna and its FCS.

Postby Partibrejker » Thu 12 Jan 2017 18:41

+1

Give the Moderna some looooveeeeeee and make it modern finally!!!! Cannot wait for this buff if it happens. #hype.
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Postby duro909 » Thu 12 Jan 2017 19:41

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Re: On T-72M2 Moderna and its FCS.

Postby CommanderDef » Thu 12 Jan 2017 22:42

Moderna is currently a tank that is almost useless in nonspec deck, as it never hits. Even with 70-65% accuracy it won't become a copy of Vihor A or Finnish Mod, since the rate of fire remains on 8, so no OP. There is not much reason to add price, 170 leo 2A5 will still be much harder tank because of 22 AP and 9 RoF. It won't became as superheavy as some other superheavies.

FCS would allow for some buffs, I see 65%/55% as good option.
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Re: On T-72M2 Moderna and its FCS.

Postby urogard » Fri 13 Jan 2017 00:19

I'm taking back what I wrote
Buff moderna to 65% accuracy and 55% stabilizer, price nerf to 165 pts

Current stat comparison:
Leclerc: 70% Acc, 70% Stabs, 12 RoF, 22/21 AP/AV => 165 pts
Moderna: 55% Acc, 45% Stabs, 8 RoF, 23/21 AP/AV => 160 pts

Absolute values difference: +15% Acc, +25% Stabs, +4 RoF
Relative values difference: +27% Acc, +55% Stabs, +50% RoF, -1 AP
=> Price increase of 5 pts

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Re: On T-72M2 Moderna and its FCS.

Postby Solo » Fri 13 Jan 2017 01:08

65% accuracy on Redfor tanks equates to 70% accuracy on Bluefor tanks because of medium vs big size modifiers.

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Re: On T-72M2 Moderna and its FCS.

Postby Sir Typhoon » Fri 13 Jan 2017 01:13

Solo wrote:65% accuracy on Redfor tanks equates to 70% accuracy on Bluefor tanks because of medium vs big size modifiers.


Almost, but no: 65% x 1.05 = 68.25%.

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