[Red Dragon] Patch v.64564 (Tech Patch)

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Re: [Red Dragon] Patch v.64564 (Tech Patch)

Postby Razzmann » Tue 14 Feb 2017 21:23

Mike wrote:the only thing I felt was just disappointment and shame

Because you had to laugh? Admit it!

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Re: [Red Dragon] Patch v.64564 (Tech Patch)

Postby Mike » Tue 14 Feb 2017 21:24

Razzmann wrote:
Mike wrote:the only thing I felt was just disappointment and shame

Because you had to laugh? Admit it!


No, not even a smile. You should be ashamed of yourself.
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Re: [Red Dragon] Patch v.64564 (Tech Patch)

Postby Sigirdiwarth » Tue 14 Feb 2017 22:13

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[EUG]MadMat wrote:
Oktoberfest wrote:I really really hope they'll put efforts in balance related to realism too.

I'm sure by this you mean "your" view of realism. ;)
Everybody has his own, and it usually differs from the others ...

This says otherwise.

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Re: [Red Dragon] Patch v.64564 (Tech Patch)

Postby Oktoberfest » Wed 15 Feb 2017 15:27

[EUG]MadMat wrote:
Oktoberfest wrote:I really really hope they'll put efforts in balance related to realism too.

I'm sure by this you mean "your" view of realism. ;)
Everybody has his own, and it usually differs from the others ...


WHAT DOES THE AMX-30 FIRES THAT DESERVES LESS HEAT AP THAN A T-34-85 ??????????????? Why does 400 mm RHA have 9AP HEAT and 300mm RHA 10AP HEAT?



Besides, my view of realism concerns the nation that I play with. Did research, found documents, provided them, compared to what other nations have and how the AP scaling is built, and submitted it.

Everything was received with a deafening silence from your part. So.....
Again, what round does the Leo2A4 NL fire ? DM43 ? It cannot be DM53 as that is what the Leo2A5 fires. And it cannot be the DM33 as that is what the german Leo2A4 fires. It cannot be the DM43 as that is what the AMX-40 fires, and it also got only 19AP (sources say it should be 20AP on the CN120-25 L52)

What round does the AMX-30B2 fires ? What round does the AMX-40 fires ? Why is the base AMX-30 and 30B not at 50% acc when the Obus G was considered the "perfect match" for HEAT and precision. Etc...

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Re: [Red Dragon] Patch v.64564 (Tech Patch)

Postby Mike » Thu 16 Feb 2017 00:32

TRIGGEERREEDDD!1!1!!
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Postby Oktoberfest » Thu 16 Feb 2017 08:31

Mike wrote:TRIGGEERREEDDD!1!1!!


indeed. I find it funny that tons of infos is given on units that are in game and there is no reaction except this one troll post. That's typical MadMat, though.

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Re: [Red Dragon] Patch v.64564 (Tech Patch)

Postby Mike » Thu 16 Feb 2017 09:02

Oktoberfest wrote:
Mike wrote:TRIGGEERREEDDD!1!1!!


indeed. I find it funny that tons of infos is given on units that are in game and there is no reaction except this one troll post. That's typical MadMat, though.


It's because you tend to go a bit overboard with it.
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Re: [Red Dragon] Patch v.64564 (Tech Patch)

Postby Oktoberfest » Thu 16 Feb 2017 10:27

Mike wrote:
Oktoberfest wrote:
Mike wrote:TRIGGEERREEDDD!1!1!!


indeed. I find it funny that tons of infos is given on units that are in game and there is no reaction except this one troll post. That's typical MadMat, though.


It's because you tend to go a bit overboard with it.


Let's say that when I see a T-34-85 with more firepower than an AMX-30B, I tend to raise an eyebrow.

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Re: [Red Dragon] Patch v.64564 (Tech Patch)

Postby FrangibleCover » Thu 16 Feb 2017 10:47

Oktoberfest wrote:Why is the base AMX-30 and 30B not at 50% acc when the Obus G was considered the "perfect match" for HEAT and precision. Etc...

My understanding of the round was that it was an effort to make HEAT ammunition that could be fired from rifled guns so that it was as accurate as Sabot. In game the AMX-30s have 45% accuracy [HEAT] rounds, L7 equipped tanks of similar price and vintage have 45% accuracy [KE] rounds. I'm not seeing the issue.
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Re: [Red Dragon] Patch v.64564 (Tech Patch)

Postby HrcAk47 » Thu 16 Feb 2017 11:24

FrangibleCover wrote:
Oktoberfest wrote:Why is the base AMX-30 and 30B not at 50% acc when the Obus G was considered the "perfect match" for HEAT and precision. Etc...

My understanding of the round was that it was an effort to make HEAT ammunition that could be fired from rifled guns so that it was as accurate as Sabot. In game the AMX-30s have 45% accuracy [HEAT] rounds, L7 equipped tanks of similar price and vintage have 45% accuracy [KE] rounds. I'm not seeing the issue.


Nope. All HEAT rounds of the era spin, thanks to the rifled barrels. Obus G just doesn't suffer from centrifugal force disrupting the HEAT jet.
The SEAD never bothered me anyway.

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