Bumbar is from 2005 and didn't enter service until 2012. Why is this in the game?

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Re: Bumbar is from 2005 and didn't enter service until 2012. Why is this in the game?

Postby Bougnas » Fri 27 Jan 2017 19:38

Darkmil wrote:I love seeing how some people can argue on some proto being/not being in game. And no-one has ever complains about the Tigre HAD being in the game.
BtW Akkku you need to chill. Sure some proto are not in game and should in my opinion be in. But it's not a reason to derail and shitpost threads. I will not go in other's threads to argue that "France needs Mirage 2000D because RoK has K9 Thunder".


Yeah that was rather strange since IIRC France intended to use the HAC (PAH-2 clone) for AT duties at the time.
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Re: Bumbar is from 2005 and didn't enter service until 2012. Why is this in the game?

Postby Darkmil » Fri 27 Jan 2017 19:42

Bougnas wrote:
Darkmil wrote:I love seeing how some people can argue on some proto being/not being in game. And no-one has ever complains about the Tigre HAD being in the game.
BtW Akkku you need to chill. Sure some proto are not in game and should in my opinion be in. But it's not a reason to derail and shitpost threads. I will not go in other's threads to argue that "France needs Mirage 2000D because RoK has K9 Thunder".


Yeah that was rather strange since IIRC France intended to use the HAC (PAH-2 clone) for AT duties at the time.

codextero wrote:People complained about Tigers back when the game was new and Euromech was meta for like 2 years.

Then people realized despite being hugely OOTF, the tigers were not very good, and Eurocorps fell out of the meta with the Jager nerf.

The new units are OOTF and very very good.

You should remember the Rafale vs Eurofighter/where's muh F-22 threads.

Not only is it OOTF by a full decade at best. But it's also not a Tigre HAD. Tigre HAD never were able to fire HOT missiles. Only Hellfires.
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Re: Bumbar is from 2005 and didn't enter service until 2012. Why is this in the game?

Postby HrcAk47 » Fri 27 Jan 2017 19:50

codextero wrote:
Darkmil wrote:I love seeing how some people can argue on some proto being/not being in game. And no-one has ever complains about the Tigre HAD being in the game.
BtW Akkku you need to chill. Sure some proto are not in game and should in my opinion be in. But it's not a reason to derail and shitpost threads. I will not go in other's threads to argue that "France needs Mirage 2000D because RoK has K9 Thunder".


The new units are OOTF and very very good.


Oh, so you also think that we should get rid of Longbow and ATACMS?
The SEAD never bothered me anyway.

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Postby Azaz3l » Fri 27 Jan 2017 20:01

Eugen's rule is more like "up to 1991 - non proto if mass produced, 1991 - 1995 - auto prototype, >1995 - unit will get in if the nation really needs it."
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Re: Bumbar is from 2005 and didn't enter service until 2012. Why is this in the game?

Postby Xeno426 » Fri 27 Jan 2017 20:03

Azaz3l wrote:Eugen's rule is more like "up to 1991 - non proto if mass produced, 1991 - 1995 - auto prototype, >1995 - unit will get in if the nation really needs it."

Part of the problem there is that "really needs it" has changed over time as the meta has changed.
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Re: Bumbar is from 2005 and didn't enter service until 2012. Why is this in the game?

Postby morpher » Fri 27 Jan 2017 20:18

Xeno426 wrote:
Azaz3l wrote:Eugen's rule is more like "up to 1991 - non proto if mass produced, 1991 - 1995 - auto prototype, >1995 - unit will get in if the nation really needs it."

Part of the problem there is that "really needs it" has changed over time as the meta has changed.


You both are so cute, you really believe eugen has rules and knows the meta.

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Re: Bumbar is from 2005 and didn't enter service until 2012. Why is this in the game?

Postby Akkku » Fri 27 Jan 2017 21:20

morpher wrote:
Xeno426 wrote:
Azaz3l wrote:Eugen's rule is more like "up to 1991 - non proto if mass produced, 1991 - 1995 - auto prototype, >1995 - unit will get in if the nation really needs it."

Part of the problem there is that "really needs it" has changed over time as the meta has changed.


You both are so cute, you really believe eugen has rules and knows the meta.

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Re: Bumbar is from 2005 and didn't enter service until 2012. Why is this in the game?

Postby KattiValk » Fri 27 Jan 2017 21:31

HrcAk47 wrote:Oh, so you also think that we should get rid of Longbow and ATACMS?
We've been asking for the ATACMS' removal for ages, so yes. I'm not against Longbow being in the game, but trading the Longbow for something worthwhile (M249?) would be very nice if it came down to it.

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Re: Bumbar is from 2005 and didn't enter service until 2012. Why is this in the game?

Postby Solo » Fri 27 Jan 2017 21:35

kiheerSEDMAN wrote: but trading the Longbow for something worthwhile (M249?) would be very nice if it came down to it.


Oh god no. I don't think balance should be a zero sum game.

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Re: Bumbar is from 2005 and didn't enter service until 2012. Why is this in the game?

Postby KattiValk » Fri 27 Jan 2017 21:56

Solo wrote:Oh god no. I don't think balance should be a zero sum game.
Balance means the US needs to be fair to play as and against. The US doesn't need special snowflakes to be strong regardless.

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