Should Ka-52 just lose its SEAD missile?

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Should Ka-52 just lose its SEAD missile?

Postby another505 » Sat 28 Jan 2017 19:30

Its the most mixed weapon ever, either it bullies a deck that could only run radar AA with ka-50 and the player has to cheat against the Ka-52 with weapons on/off on the move (it isn't hard but risky with ka-50 next to the ka-52) , or the Ka-52 is completely useless against most deck that would run 3150m and 3350m anti helo AA. Only purpose is for helo start to give both recon and a2a missile cover.

How about a return of the ALB Ka-50?
Carry 2 Kh-25ML

make it 2975m range, 60 accuracy, 28 AP.
2 per card
With nimrod out there with 70 accuracy 4 missiles, 29 AP. I dont think it would be OP, also, 2 missiles with 28 AP means it can't kill super heavies even if both hits.
Exceptional recon from helo is capped at 3500m spotting distance and most IR AA are going to counter it. But at least it can do something unlike the SEAD missile.
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Re: Should Ka-52 just lose its SEAD missile?

Postby HrcAk47 » Sat 28 Jan 2017 19:51

Sure.

2 Kh-25ML and 2 R-73. Or 4 R-73.
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The SEAD never bothered me anyway.

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Re: Should Ka-52 just lose its SEAD missile?

Postby urogard » Sat 28 Jan 2017 19:51

another505 wrote:I dont think it would be OP, also, 2 missiles with 28 AP means it can't kill super heavies even if both hits.

not only wouldn't it be OP, it would by your own admission be completely worthless

another505 wrote:Exceptional recon from helo is capped at 3500m spotting distance and most IR AA are going to counter it. But at least it can do something unlike the SEAD missile.

questionable value of 2 missiles with 2975 range

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Re: Should Ka-52 just lose its SEAD missile?

Postby another505 » Sat 28 Jan 2017 19:57

urogard wrote:
another505 wrote:I dont think it would be OP, also, 2 missiles with 28 AP means it can't kill super heavies even if both hits.

not only wouldn't it be OP, it would by your own admission be completely worthless

another505 wrote:Exceptional recon from helo is capped at 3500m spotting distance and most IR AA are going to counter it. But at least it can do something unlike the SEAD missile.

questionable value of 2 missiles with 2975 range

Sniping medium tanks and if lucky, kill heavies. I didnt say it or support it to be " completely worthless"
destroy anything on the ground basically in long range. Short range AA, light tanks, heavies, or just finish off a super heavy

Much more useful than SEAD missile that ONLY targets RADAR aa that is ON , but not game changing.
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Re: Should Ka-52 just lose its SEAD missile?

Postby Mike » Sat 28 Jan 2017 20:00

Yes, but stop trying to push your fantasies on the fan base. I'm pretty sure the K-25ML would also damage the airframe. :lol:
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Re: Should Ka-52 just lose its SEAD missile?

Postby FrangibleCover » Sat 28 Jan 2017 20:00

Yes, but it shouldn't get the Kh-25 anything. Xeno has previously said that firing a Kh-25 from a helicopter will cause the airframe to have a very bad time. If we're looking for cool unique loadouts how about a pair of R-73s and some Iglas for the ultimate AA helo or perhaps give it R-73s/Iglas and S-13s so that it continues to synergise well with the Ka-50?
What if Wargame stuck to timeframe?
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Re: Should Ka-52 just lose its SEAD missile?

Postby HrcAk47 » Sat 28 Jan 2017 20:03

Other interesting thing is that 9М127-1 Вихрь-1 (Vikhr-M) can be added.
The SEAD never bothered me anyway.

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Re: Should Ka-52 just lose its SEAD missile?

Postby another505 » Sat 28 Jan 2017 20:04

Mike wrote:Yes, but stop trying to push your fantasies on the fan base. I'm pretty sure the K-25ML would also damage the airframe. :lol:

Shut up mike! You still haven't wrote your fantasies yet at the Tithe!

FrangibleCover wrote:Yes, but it shouldn't get the Kh-25 anything. Xeno has previously said that firing a Kh-25 from a helicopter will cause the airframe to have a very bad time. If we're looking for cool unique loadouts how about a pair of R-73s and some Iglas for the ultimate AA helo or perhaps give it R-73s/Iglas and S-13s so that it continues to synergise well with the Ka-50?



Its already loaded with Kh-25 and supposedly, if you pay USSR back then, they will make it work for you , afaik xeno said that in some thread.
This doesnt require changing model so its easier.
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Re: Should Ka-52 just lose its SEAD missile?

Postby another505 » Sat 28 Jan 2017 20:08

HrcAk47 wrote:Other interesting thing is that 9М127-1 Вихрь-1 (Vikhr-M) can be added.

Rather keep Ka-50 and 52's loadout more different.

also, please give Vikhr on the Ka-50 the anti helo capability it has irl, just give it like 2450 and 3 HE. It has proximity fuse and fragmentation sleeve
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Re: Should Ka-52 just lose its SEAD missile?

Postby codextero » Sat 28 Jan 2017 20:12

I'd like it if it just got rockets and became a lot cheaper.

The 122mm rockets have more range than stingers, so it becomes useful in that niche.

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