QUAD wrote: Killertomato wrote:
QUAD wrote:You can't have infantry squads be clones though. Just pretend the characteristics abstract represent NCO, doctrine, troop quality, etc.
They aren't clones because they have different AT weapons or really different machine guns. Like M249. Or RPK. Or Bren.
Trying to model troop quality beyond shock/SF/normal/militia is a very bad idea.
I see where your coming from-like USA for instance-but figure infantry in game is balanced also by transport combination and has to reflect general real life doctrine.
France has bullpups, good AT, and ergonomic fast transport; USSR has God like AT and the best IFV; FRG has fire superiority and well rounded RPGs/IFV.
If you make MGs and primary clone only differentiating factor is AT weapon and IFV. (Also 15 men theoretically but most are trash.)
As explained, there would be 3 types of MG and 3 types of Primary as well as 3 types of training and plenty of AT launcher, so it's 27 possible combinaisons firerms only.
As for differant doctrines and so on, when it comes to infantry combat everybody share the same doctrine : gain fire superiority, fix the ennemy, flank/assault, destroy. It doesn't really matter if the said fire superiority is gained by using two identical fire teams covering each other or by an MG element covering a rifle element. Ultimately the result is the same. And at wargame scale it doesn't make sense to simulate something like that.
Nobody can asses a unit training level outside VDV/Marines/Legion > Conscript Rifleman. There is so many factor that must be taken into account : quality of NCOs, war experience, morale, realism of training, day spend training, etc. Furthermore, quality varies greatly within armies themselves. You can have in the same regiment very good platoons and very bad platoons. In the end at the scale of Waragme, everything just blends out in an average quality. As suchit doesn't make sense to model some units superior to others.
Latsly, balancing the units, may actually make upvetting units worth it, as it would give your inf a distinct advantage, while currently it doesn't matter at all considering the discrepancies between the differant units.