On the rebalance of air-to-air missiles

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On the rebalance of air-to-air missiles

Postby HrcAk47 » Sun 12 Feb 2017 03:39

So, I had an idea. Why not rebalance all air-to-air missiles properly, by weight?

Currently, SARH ASFs are in a very mediocre position. Almost everybody has them, but they are in the shadow of MRAAM slingers, which are quite prolific at this point in Wargame timeline. So why not give them a glimpse of hope?

The idea is to raise SARH BVR AAMs with 35-50 kg warheads to 7 HE.

Now why is 7 HE the magical number? 7 HE allows the (small) probability of one-shot-killing the enemy plane on a critical hit. While rare, it can happen. It gives those planes a "new life", of sorts. Levels the playing field. Sure, MRAAM slinger will fire 2-3 MRAAMs before knifefighting range and take it out, but sometimes, it will get the "last laugh". Not often. Not reliably. Sometimes. And when it does happen, you take a pic, and feel good.

Other side benefits of this approach is fixing plenty of "bugs" as old as time (AIM-9s and K-13s at 4 HE, R-24R at 5 HE), improving viability of a huge number of airframes that were before required to strike 3 shots to kill, often a very hard task against 50% ECM and similar technological behemoths of unexplainable ECM that are so prolific in skies of Wargame.

As well, it has a very positive effect on the planes from the MiG-23 family in particular - synergy of a now-6HE missile with 4 HE R-60(M) makes them viable for the first time in... forever. When was the last time you saw a MiG-23 in the sky?

This change will work the best if paired with some grand-scale reshuffling of plane loadouts, but even as-is, it can bring to life (maybe even to meta) quite a number of planes that are not MRAAM slingers.

Source: http://www.airwar.ru/enc/weapon/avv_data.html
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Re: On the rebalance of air-to-air missiles

Postby Mako » Sun 12 Feb 2017 06:45

Does vet still impact crit chance?

Even if not, this does still buff the twin at elite in one card ~120 pt fighters which don't need the help right now.

Other than that, seems great. The state of the older SRAAMs is currently pitiful, they never hit anything and if they do they don't do enough damage.
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Re: On the rebalance of air-to-air missiles

Postby another505 » Sun 12 Feb 2017 06:52

I rather not see more 1 crit shot planes

If i have my way, i would remove crit against planes, planes are already too RNG for my taste. No micro, just rng in rolling hit vs ecm.
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Re: On the rebalance of air-to-air missiles

Postby Bougnas » Sun 12 Feb 2017 10:31

Didn't early AIM-9 (so base R-13) have pretty bad warheads? There's a reason the navy put continuons rods in theirs.
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Re: On the rebalance of air-to-air missiles

Postby Zaskow » Sun 12 Feb 2017 10:57

It won't help. Nobody will choose planes with very, very little chance to oneshot planes over reliable FF carriers. Also something must be done to old missiles with crappy acc (25-35%), because they're worthless even carrier has elite training.
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Re: On the rebalance of air-to-air missiles

Postby Razzmann » Sun 12 Feb 2017 11:37

No 7HE pls.

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Re: On the rebalance of air-to-air missiles

Postby FoxZz » Sun 12 Feb 2017 12:58

Yeah, no 7HE.

Just extend the 5HE category to 29kg of explosives and give 6HE to everything from 30kg and above.

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Re: On the rebalance of air-to-air missiles

Postby GARGEAN » Sun 12 Feb 2017 14:13

R-40 has not 38, but 55kg warhead. So no nerf.

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Re: On the rebalance of air-to-air missiles

Postby HrcAk47 » Sun 12 Feb 2017 14:16

GARGEAN wrote:R-40 has not 38, but 55kg warhead. So no nerf.


Both variants are stated. Look above.
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Re: On the rebalance of air-to-air missiles

Postby Zaskow » Sun 12 Feb 2017 14:30

I think SA MRAAM need something different than just adding HE. Better speed, better range (for some missiles), ripple-fire mode (for some missiles) whatever.
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