Oktoberfest wrote:- All Leo1 downgraded a bit, they are too cost efficient.
The only one that I could see as being too good is the 1A4, having medium optics for 40pts. But that is nothing gamebreaking. Besides the recon Leo and the 1A4, none of the German Leo 1s are worth taking.
In what type of games? In general larger scale many vs many game any tanks below 14 AV is garbage because they instadie and has 0 chance against 85-90CP med category tanks which can have 18 AP with 2275 m range. Leo 1 has paper armor... So regardless what good ACC and firepower has a lucky hit can push inta out of combat even just from a T-72B1, but against ATGM capable tanks even Leo1A5 is useles. 20-22AP HEAT ATGMs at gun range has the same or better ACC and in case ATGM misses Leo it is possible to switch insta to gun.
In 1v1 Leo is much different because many times is no solid frontline and it is fast. So as long as a helo does not arrive and can stay out of RPG type weapons has quite good cost eff. ratio but in case just an average USSR med tanks appears you are in big troble.
(This why so OP the YUG tanks with VG optics and similar combmat power to M1A1. It is simply funny. In 1v1 or tactical DLC nations are close to "pay to win" case...)