Broken Stuff that Needs Fixing ASAP

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Re: Broken Shit that Needs Fixing ASAP

Postby nuke92 » Sun 20 Aug 2017 00:14

-M-84 line rof nerf to 8
-M-60 line to 2 or 3 fav, M-60PB price nerf to 15pts
-M-87 Orkan: nerf availability, fix min range, aimtime to 10s

-XA-185 price nerf

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Re: Broken Shit that Needs Fixing ASAP

Postby chykka » Sun 20 Aug 2017 00:17

I was thinking of the Vigilant which is 15 points at 2100m range. Maybe why I thought the missile was fast as with a short range it would hit faster. It's pretty slow tho, just bit slower than the Tow. Probably was Dlc Op bias there thinking Vigilant was a faster missile.

Best atgm for Entant maybe still is the su22 sierra.
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Re: Broken Shit that Needs Fixing ASAP

Postby integ3r » Sun 20 Aug 2017 00:26

M-84A - Even if you nerf ROF to 8, then it will still have ridiculous stabilizers, accuracy, its autoloader and magic 19 AP. Is there any basis for it being this good? Would still be worth like 105 pts. Just compare T-72B1 or even M1A1. And for seemingly no reason at all it's also absurdly fast. It's the best medium in the game. It definitely needs the price nerf, even after ROF reduction. And it will still be the best medium although price wise it will be on the borderline to heavy. If you don't want price nerfs on this thing then you'll have to cut other things. AP, speed, accuracy... does it even deserve medium optics? Thing didn't have thermals as far as I know. Only night-vision.

As for the AN version... it should probably just have "Good" optics instead of V.Good. Also needs the ROF and speed-nerf. Even then might need price nerf if stealth isn't removed. Really cancerous unit.

HERA 2 - Rocketpods and high DPS guns. Poor japan pays the same price for a slower heli without the guns. Those guns make for an excellent CV hunter, since they don't have the same angle problem. Can also ward off enemy crap helis. Not sure if it needs nerf or just the other ones without the guns should get buffed.

Novi Avion - lmao Mica? This is a real stretch just to cover for yugo's weaknesses. Why go so far as to give it the french meme-missiles with 65% acc?

T55 Izvidjac - Just better than every other T55 for the same price. Once again, not sure if price nerf or buff other T55s. Leaning towards buff others.

Also they're completely immune to SEAD... how very unrealistic. ;)

Super Galeb - Does this thing really warrant 60% acc? It has the Maverick-B seeker which has 40% accuracy on the T-bolt. Even maverick-F has 50%. Doesn't even come at rookie. Also, so fast. Kahu jelly. Kahu got nerfed for pretty much being a worse version of this plane.

Merkava - Remove GL. Fixed. Can add it to the non-transport version. Would encourage the use of the GL teams instead... maybe.

HVMS - Nerf range to 1750m. Capabilities overmodeled.

Achzarit Pikud - Nice meme. Keep it for flavour. I hate it. And it's dumb. But I also like it.
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Re: Broken Shit that Needs Fixing ASAP

Postby Fodder » Sun 20 Aug 2017 02:19

You know wats really broken and needs to be fixed right away?

Jesus Tanks!

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PHZ-70, Strv103B, and Strv103C all drive on top of water.

BTW super galeb should be 600kph and i support Israeli APCs 5pts increase.
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Re: Broken Shit that Needs Fixing ASAP

Postby nande » Sun 20 Aug 2017 03:22

amx-10s back to 7rpm.
185kt exclusive to recon, if possible replaced by btr-80 elsewhere.
mar-290 2 per card, same salvo supply use as the m270.
nimrod del.
kurnass 150 and 1 hardened per card

along with some changes from here

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Re: Broken Shit that Needs Fixing ASAP

Postby Sigirdiwarth » Sun 20 Aug 2017 03:37

You did it folks, you drove nande completely mad.
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Re: Broken Shit that Needs Fixing ASAP

Postby HrcAk47 » Sun 20 Aug 2017 09:31

I like coffee.

>N-62M Super Galeb to 750 kph
Fully agree. In fact, it was planned this way.

> M-84A nerf
It should go down to 8 RPM but that's all, really. Potentially, it might see a price buff. On that matter, ALL T-72 based tanks should be 8 RPM.

Base M-84 also needs buffs, it is quite overpriced atm.

>M-84AN nerf
It should lose stealth, but then again, everything aside from recon jeeps should also lose stealth. Did you know that Leo 1 Verkenning is actually physically larger?

On that matter, some other stuff would lose inexplicable stealth like Tigers, AMX-10, Ka-52, Verk, Tiran, HVMS...

> BVP M-80A
Yes, it ought to lose simultaneous fire of ATGM and gun.


I'll add more stuff later.
The SEAD never bothered me anyway.

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Re: Broken Shit that Needs Fixing ASAP

Postby integ3r » Sun 20 Aug 2017 09:41

HrcAk47 wrote:> M-84A nerf

It should go down to 8 RPM but that's all, really. Potentially, it might see a price buff. On that matter, ALL T-72 based tanks should be 8 RPM.

I don't see this at all. What's the basis for keeping it at 95 pts or even price buffing after only giving it the ROF nerf?
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Re: Broken Shit that Needs Fixing ASAP

Postby Razzmann » Sun 20 Aug 2017 10:09

integ3r wrote:
HrcAk47 wrote:> M-84A nerf

It should go down to 8 RPM but that's all, really. Potentially, it might see a price buff. On that matter, ALL T-72 based tanks should be 8 RPM.

I don't see this at all. What's the basis for keeping it at 95 pts or even price buffing after only giving it the ROF nerf?

Looking at the Wilk or K1 is.

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Re: Broken Shit that Needs Fixing ASAP

Postby integ3r » Sun 20 Aug 2017 10:17

Razzmann wrote:
integ3r wrote:
HrcAk47 wrote:> M-84A nerf

It should go down to 8 RPM but that's all, really. Potentially, it might see a price buff. On that matter, ALL T-72 based tanks should be 8 RPM.

I don't see this at all. What's the basis for keeping it at 95 pts or even price buffing after only giving it the ROF nerf?

Looking at the Wilk or K1 is.

Good joke.

You're saying you can trade 1 ROF and 2 Armor for:
3 AP, +10% stabs, +5% accuracy, +5 speed, +1 HE, autoloader and infinite autonomy in the case of K1.

And wilk is just vastly inferior with its slow speed, 50% acc and 30% stabs and 18 AP.

You need to stop memeing that this only needs a ROF nerf and price buff.
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