Broken Stuff that Needs Fixing ASAP

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Re: Broken Shit that Needs Fixing ASAP

Postby Markenzwieback » Mon 21 Aug 2017 09:23

another505 wrote:Can i still say Patriot?

No Patriot on the list without retard Newa. At least you can counter the Patriot with SEAD...
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Re: Broken Shit that Needs Fixing ASAP

Postby HrcAk47 » Mon 21 Aug 2017 10:30

Here's more broken stuff:

- too high acc on TCMs (purely Mk.1 Eyeball systems)
- too long range on Machbet (should be 2625 as other 20mm systems)
- continuous fire on TCMs (should be a reload after 120 rnds)
The SEAD never bothered me anyway.

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Re: Broken Shit that Needs Fixing ASAP

Postby another505 » Mon 21 Aug 2017 10:35

Markenzwieback wrote:
another505 wrote:Can i still say Patriot?

No Patriot on the list without retard Newa. At least you can counter the Patriot with SEAD...

tbh, i wouldnt mind the retard newa, eots hawk and patriot gets thrown away

why the heck do we have uncounterable units and base on pure rng...
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Re: Broken Shit that Needs Fixing ASAP

Postby Markenzwieback » Mon 21 Aug 2017 10:38

another505 wrote:tbh, i wouldnt mind the retard newa, eots hawk and patriot gets thrown away

why the heck do we have uncounterable units and base on pure rng...

While I agree completely, I am still not sure whether to include them on this list. One can play with them on the field as of right now (or at least that is my impression). Others on the list are far worse offenders that need to be dealt with first.

Changes to Patriot, retard Newa and EOTS Hawks should be part of a general last WG:RD balance patch. If that will ever be a thing...
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Re: Broken Shit that Needs Fixing ASAP

Postby HrcAk47 » Mon 21 Aug 2017 10:39

EOTS Hawks have been a thing since forever. Funny how they became problematic when Redfor got some. :mrgreen:
The SEAD never bothered me anyway.

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Re: Broken Shit that Needs Fixing ASAP

Postby Markenzwieback » Mon 21 Aug 2017 10:42

HrcAk47 wrote:EOTS Hawks have been a thing since forever. Funny how they became problematic when Redfor got some. :mrgreen:

The differences are quite significant. 60% instead of 50% accuracy. 60km/h off-road vs. 35km/h. And the fact that it comes in the deck with the best all-around ADN options.

But beyond that, people were already not very pleased when the EOTS Hawk was introduced. Myself included. So stop playing the muh anti-REDFOR bias card.
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Re: Broken Shit that Needs Fixing ASAP

Postby HrcAk47 » Mon 21 Aug 2017 11:24

Markenzwieback wrote:
HrcAk47 wrote:EOTS Hawks have been a thing since forever. Funny how they became problematic when Redfor got some. :mrgreen:

The differences are quite significant. 60% instead of 50% accuracy. 60km/h off-road vs. 35km/h. And the fact that it comes in the deck with the best all-around ADN options.

But beyond that, people were already not very pleased when the EOTS Hawk was introduced. Myself included. So stop playing the muh anti-REDFOR bias card.


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Re: Broken Shit that Needs Fixing ASAP

Postby another505 » Mon 21 Aug 2017 16:51

I hate tge eots hawk
I three to four stack them

And just watch enemy lose their planes and sead
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Re: Broken Shit that Needs Fixing ASAP

Postby Fade2Gray » Mon 21 Aug 2017 18:50

another505 wrote:
Markenzwieback wrote:
another505 wrote:Can i still say Patriot?

No Patriot on the list without retard Newa. At least you can counter the Patriot with SEAD...

tbh, i wouldnt mind the retard newa, eots hawk and patriot gets thrown away

why the heck do we have uncounterable units and base on pure rng...

The EOTS is so damn slow however that unless you literally park it right on roads its stupid easy to smash with arty. Heaven forbid that thing is in a forest, it will get one, maybe two, shots off and then die to arty.

PATRIOT and Newa tho... yeah.
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Re: Broken Shit that Needs Fixing ASAP

Postby Markenzwieback » Mon 21 Aug 2017 19:44

Okay, a general thing: This thread is not about general balance fixes or other improvements this game (and DLC nations) SHOULD get. It is about the necessary essential fixes that it NEEDS to get in order to be less cancerous.

HrcAk47 wrote:Here's more broken stuff:

- too high acc on TCMs (purely Mk.1 Eyeball systems)
- too long range on Machbet (should be 2625 as other 20mm systems)
- continuous fire on TCMs (should be a reload after 120 rnds)

And in reply to your post: All those should be addressed, but are by far not the things that make Israel the deck it is right now. Therefore I would dispute the need for their imminent fixing before any other unit on the list.
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