keldon wrote:Eiya wrote:So yeah, how the censors work is just going to be some not-so ancient Chinese secret that no one can fully understand.
This isn't some well hidden mystery, that requires you to attain enlightment prior.
The basic guidline for getting your games banned is:- Violating basic principles of the Constitution of the People's Republic of China
- Threatening national unity, sovereignty and territorial integrity
- Divulging state secrets
- Threatening state security
- Damaging national sovereignty
- Disturbing social order
- Infringing upon others' rights
example and reasons given by the ministry of culture on Hearts of Iron and C&C Generals zero hour: http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/english/do ... 334845.htm
Keep in mind this is 11 years prior to the lifting of console ban.
There are precautions you can make to prevent a ban, but it requires the company not going into this starry-eyed. And I repeat, that this is something eugen needs to deal/inform themselves with if they seriously want to get into the mainland market, which by the way is something no region including taiwan can dream to match in terms of revenue.
As for the "uniqness" of RoC units: You'll have to understand that their abstracted ingame performance is what matters. Take the XT-69 for example, if you can somehow provide info on the FCS being a computerized one, then you can legitimately ask for a 10 sec fast aiming gun, however this will still be your average high-end arty. The true unique one would be the 203mm fast aiming gun. But good luck find this info, as i don't think taiwan had such equipment in 1981.
The same procedure needs to applied to all other kits you want to argue as unique/special/whatever, otherwise you'll have to finally accept that the performance level and unit option Taiwan offers is around CAT B level. The only interesting one is the MLRS mounted IFV, which frankly should be ingame in the NK roster from the beginning.
I know that there are the basic general 'rules' that would trigger PRC censors, but what I meant is that like with the example of HOI IV, it contains the same things that led to previous HOI games being banned, but for some reason HOI IV wasn't banned for almost a full year before it abruptly got the banhammer around the time a China expansion pack was announced which may or may not have a factor in that.
The point is that cases like these exist and that's why it's very hard to say with full certainty what will be banned or not exactly.
And I meant uniqueness in that there are units unique to the ROC with their own characteristics and such, with the same logic you could argue every single artillery unit (or any other unit for that matter) in-game is the same thing in-game practically but claiming XT-69 is extraordinarily unique was not what I was trying to say, just that such units and variants that have a uniqueness to them do exist instead of the misconception of the ROC being entirely made up of US gear.
And finally like I've said I'm not claiming the ROC is extraordinarily strong, I'm well aware of the limitations, but I'm saying it's not as weak or 'not worth it' as you and some posts have claimed it to be, it does have its place in Wargame and can add to the game, thematically and on other aspects. In other words it is a worthy addition more or less.