Stillehavet wrote:I never said any of RD's unit is op, and also never mentioned that RD has to be nerfed. But I don't think RD has to be supported by exaggerated Type 69 series RPG. Making 426mm Pen's AP same as 720mm's AP can't be justified just only for balance...
IDK why I have to suggest this, well, let's think about the units will be influenced. Skip the '75 INFs which are using basic Type 69.
Just give Type 69-III to Zhànshì '85(to '90 and maybe with Type 81?) and Liè Rén instead of 69-I. Then with the correction of AP Value, they would get 1 AP nerf, but this is still same as LRAC F1's AP.
And about the NK infs using 69-III, we can give them Soviet's LAW. They already received T-72, T-90, BMP-1, Mi-24 with this alternative timeline, just adding some LAW may not be a problem.
Type 69-III is 69-III, and PF-89 is PF-89. THEY ARE DIFFERENT. The one can penetrate RHA 630mm is PF-89, NOT Type 69-III. DON'T GET AWAY FROM THE TOPIC.
Just think that your argument, that 69-III is using PF-89's component is right. Then can you said 69-III has to receive higher AP than PF-89? Does it prove your word?
The numbers you gave were not the problem, as i have read your post in full and nothing was wrong. Part of my response was general information in regard to things like pen data in angle, which Grabbed_by_the_Spets seemed to be confused about.
However the points
- There are still inconsistencies among the AP distribution of RPGs, even after the last rather large revision.
- Did i mention inconsistencies already?
are directed at you.
The ingame RPG AP still has them, which involves compression at lower end IIRC. The super Bazooka is just one example.
As for your interest in type-69, it was done for balance reasons. When RD released the type-III had 21 AP IIRC, the same as PF-89, and eugen upped it quite a bit after DLC 1 to help NK. If authenticity was to take priority, then it even should be lower than PF-89.
Also a very important point is: You are way too late to the party! Over the years a lot of thoughts and suggestions were made about RD, which include the type-69. Most recently in the mega thread I brought up the option to switch NK RPG to soviet line, and i also suggested lower Type-III AP two years ago or so, in a thread i don't even remembe now.
As for sources:
PF-89 AP and Type-III using parts from the grenade: http://www.zgjunshi.com/Article/Class38 ... 938_4.html
It is a compendium site, with no clear bibliography, however i have seen them using articles from 兵器知识 and other print media.
As for the real pen number, people needs to understand, that for whatever reason China loves to just give the target plate as the number. As seen in this video from 2:00 min onward.
How much it really pens, is often not mentioned, especially for stuff from the 80/90s.
TL;DR: 23 AP because of balance reason. You are too late anyway