One Deck to fight them all

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Re: One Deck to fight them all

Postby Fade2Gray » Wed 31 Jan 2018 07:15

Ah, I realized I goofed on one of my responses. He was talking about the cheaper German mortar. Yeah, I don't use it. It has been so long since I used it I have forgotten it even exists. Why don't I use it? Because as hans pointed out, that shit fuel capacity is annoying as fuck and often causes problems. I generally use about 3 of them in a game, and the 30 extra points I have to pay is more than worth it for me. As such, that cheaper mortar is not "better" IMO, and as this guy thinks that the PAH-2 is a superior "escort" copter I will happily lump his suggestion with the fact that his analysis is pretty much pure trash.

hansbroger wrote:I prefer plain old Pumas but the Pirates do work

They are surprisingly good in forests and in cqb

Cheap and frees up VABs

KJP is great, lots of MG3, excellent RoF and HEAT to actually affect heavy AFVs, I would only maybe swap for ERC 90s because they can raid

You can never over-prep for a Hind rush with a deck this light, in fact you are the Hind Rush QRF

With wheeled speed and autonomy like this you don't even need to hold ground


Pirates can be brutally fun and expendable trash gunships if I've snipped their AA or it has run out of ammo. That and they can help pull rear security while I wait to call them in a bit better than normal Pumas. Chasseurs are definitely pretty decent for more than just soaking fire. I skip VABs for my MILAN teams because when I rush I dominate forward positions with Legion, and as such, rushing ATGM teams forward is a pretty low priority for me and thus I can save some points. KJP is pretty fun like you said, every now and then I do kill something pricey with them, like a pair of T-80UMs that I mauled with Leclercs in a fight, only to have them get finished off by a slew of HEAT rounds. Those HEAT rounds are fun at times, that and their ROF is pretty nifty as well.

The one thing I don't agree with you on tho, in team games I rarely see Hind rushes. A mass of Polish AA Sokols? Sure, but Hind spam? Not so much, though I do like to roll the cheap Juche Hinds with my TY-90s as fodder/rocket spam if I'm playing Dragons for the opening engagements. Generally though AA Sokols backed up by KTs and/or MI-17s are what I would be terrified of on a rush to the city in Meme Ridge. KTs especially, that autocannon on them is shockingly good if it stays alive longer enough to use it. I wish Bloc had a copter like that.
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Re: One Deck to fight them all

Postby another505 » Wed 31 Jan 2018 22:40

Might as well post some of mine too
Ofc, there is my fav. VDV deck, buts its not really one deck to fight them all. Its really weak in a relatively open area

I've been enjoying my national Yugo deck a lot. Basically does everything. M91a is my favourite red super heavy, but T80um has always a special place since T80 series are my favourite tank family. I took out the recon gazelle cause i want to try 2men sniper team more, haven't really seen them do much sadly. Rarely call them out. The Praga is surprisingly decent AA, actually can take out Gazelle cannon 1v1 by driving towards it despite outranged.

I am thinking of taking out the Mig29 cause freaking IR newa is OP and dumb. I dont need ASF.

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Pretty powerful moto and helo opening
Ty90 with Z-9a Lie ren is not bad, then rapid reinforcement of wz551 spam and yuck 90 with btr80a
Spam igla buses everywhere
pretty shit deck still
both airforce and tank line is outmatched by every coalition. Maybe except scandi in tank department and BD in airforce, but thats is being 2nd worse in two major categories, and weak all around.
infantry heavily relies on lie ren, lijian to do cqc sadly.
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I want to post Finland, as its been my favorite national to play. But it also has limit of "one deck to fight them all" meh in very open area. It really relies on two super heavy.
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is decent everywhere.
I want to take at least one tank of every family, missing T-62 and T-64 sadly. But none of them are worth it. Maybe 62mv-1
the only weakness is speed. In forest, you got BMPT to kind off pull the balance back to your favor.
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Re: One Deck to fight them all

Postby Fade2Gray » Thu 1 Feb 2018 06:17

another505 wrote:Might as well post some of mine too
Ofc, there is my fav. VDV deck, buts its not really one deck to fight them all. Its really weak in a relatively open area

I say post it, but be honest about it. As long as you don't claim that it is some sort of God deck when in reality it's a blatant noob deck, we can let the rules bend a bit. That and I want to see exactly how it is made, I played with you once on Meme Ridge when you unleashed it...


poor Gafroor. :mrgreen: Was glorious to see it in action.
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Re: One Deck to fight them all

Postby KattiValk » Thu 1 Feb 2018 07:07

Hey, don’t listen to 505, he just doesn’t acknowledge the fact that Ka-50, recce, and an Su-27M can’t meme on an open field.

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Re: One Deck to fight them all

Postby high_melanin » Thu 1 Feb 2018 15:12

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Do you even pay to win?

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Re: One Deck to fight them all

Postby another505 » Thu 1 Feb 2018 16:44

KattiValk wrote:Hey, don’t listen to 505, he just doesn’t acknowledge the fact that Ka-50, recce, and an Su-27M can’t meme on an open field.

In a complete open area, you can meme.
but in a relatively open area as i said. With sufficient cover for their AAs and tanks, but not very dense that my infantry has an advantage is the major problem.
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Re: One Deck to fight them all

Postby another505 » Fri 2 Feb 2018 00:37

high_melanin wrote:
Do you even pay to win?


Im not exactly sure what do you mean by that

Fade2Gray wrote:
another505 wrote:Might as well post some of mine too
Ofc, there is my fav. VDV deck, buts its not really one deck to fight them all. Its really weak in a relatively open area

I say post it, but be honest about it. As long as you don't claim that it is some sort of God deck when in reality it's a blatant noob deck, we can let the rules bend a bit. That and I want to see exactly how it is made, I played with you once on Meme Ridge when you unleashed it...


poor Gafroor. :mrgreen: Was glorious to see it in action.


Alright :D
My current 2v2-4v4 conquest vdv deck. Made some changes to vdv90, not taking them 1 of them elite in skrezhet, had some games when i start running out. Still take one of them in elite in 1v1 though.
been running the BMD-3 instead of BMD-1P, since the price nerf, the BMD-3 is the only one worth it and it isnt bad. But is super fragile for its price.
Ka-50 elite is freaking good. 90+ accuracy, with insane missile speed. Longbow will waste shot, but not this guy.
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And the complete air superiority deck, VDV SONG deck. Everything the same except the airline up.
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Re: One Deck to fight them all

Postby high_melanin » Fri 2 Feb 2018 11:56

another505 wrote:
high_melanin wrote:
Do you even pay to win?


Im not exactly sure what do you mean by that


Did you miss the broken stuff on purpose?

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Re: One Deck to fight them all

Postby Markenzwieback » Fri 2 Feb 2018 13:35

high_melanin wrote:Did you miss the broken stuff on purpose?

He has enough of it already, don't know what you are missing.
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Re: One Deck to fight them all

Postby high_melanin » Fri 2 Feb 2018 15:12

Markenzwieback wrote:
high_melanin wrote:Did you miss the broken stuff on purpose?

He has enough of it already, don't know what you are missing.


m80a, m84a.

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