Re: Inquiry: Why does WRD not have a standardized unit naming system?
Posted: Mon 26 Feb 2018 21:48
inb4 ALB >>>>>>>>>>>> RD
Fodder wrote:As stated above it's to give units distinction between each other.
It's so bad how they named japan, hachi-maru shiki instead of Type 89 or Kyu-maru shiki instead of Type 90 but when comes to AA they used nicknames like Guntank, it makes it so confusing.
lastcrusade101 wrote:I still autistically love the game though
lastcrusade101 wrote:I agree with much of what’s been said, and especially agree that for infantry in particular, having local names is a freash breath of air when every other game has “Marines” for every single faction.
However, while I agree that nations that didn’t use the nickname shouldn’t have it (F-16 for the dutch not being called the Fighting Falcon), that doesn't explain how even in the US tree, the Block 52 is missing the “Fighting Falcon” designation.
Basically, I was wondering if it was just some sloppiness, or if there were actual reasons for it
I still autistically love the game though
fas.org wrote:The F-16C and F-16D aircraft, which are the single- and two-place counterparts to the F-16A/B, incorporate the latest cockpit control and display technology. All F-16s delivered since November 1981 have built-in structural and wiring provisions and systems architecture that permit expansion of the multirole flexibility to perform precision strike, night attack and beyond-visual-range interception missions. All active units and many Air National Guard and Air Force Reserve units have converted to the F-16C/D, which is deployed in a number of Block variants.
Block 25 added the ability to carry AMRAAM to the F-16 as well as night/precision ground-attack capabilities, as well as an improved radar, the Westinghouse (now Northrop-Grumman) AN/APG-68, with increased range, better resolution, and more operating modes.
Block 30/32 added two new engines -- Block 30 designates a General Electric F110-GE-100 engine, and Block 32 designates a Pratt & Whitney F100-PW-220 engine. Block 30/32 can carry the AGM-45 Shrike and the AGM-88A HARM, and like the Block 25, it can carry the AGM-65 Maverick.
Block 40/42 - F-16CG/DG - gained capabilities for navigation and precision attack in all weather conditions and at night with the LANTIRN pods and more extensive air-to-ground loads, including the GBU-10, GBU-12, GBU-24 Paveway laser-guided bombs and the GBU-15. Block 40/42 production began in 1988 and ran through 1995. Currently, the Block 40s are being upgraded with several Block 50 systems: ALR-56M threat warning system, the ALE-47 advanced chaff/flare dispenser, an improved performance battery, and Falcon UP structural upgrade.
Block 50/52 Equipped with a Northrop Grumman APG-68(V)7 radar and a General Electric F110-GE-129 Increased Performance Engine, the aircraft are also capable of using the Lockheed Martin low-altitude navigation and targeting for night (LANTIRN) system. Technology enhancements include color multifunctional displays and programmable display generator, a new Modular Mission Computer, a Digital Terrain System, a new color video camera and color triple-deck video recorder to record the pilot's head-up display view, and an upgraded data transfer unit. In May 2000, the Air Force certitified Block 50/52 [aka Block 50 Plus] F-16s to carry the CBU-103/104/105 Wind-Corrected Munitions Dispenser, the AGM-154 Joint Stand-Off Weapon, the GBU-31/32 Joint Direct Attack Munition, and the Theater Airborne Reconnaissance System. Beginning in mid-2000, Lockheed-Martin began to deliver Block 50/52 variants equipped with an on-board oxygen generation system (OBOGS) designed to replace the obsolete, original LOX system.
Block 50D/52D Wild Weasel F-16CJ (CJ means block 50) comes in C-Model (1 seat) and D-Model (2 seat) versions. It is best recognized for its ability to carry the AGM-88 HARM and the AN/ASQ-213 HARM Targeting System (HTS) in the suppression of enemy air defenses [SEAD] mission. The HTS allows HARM to be employed in the range-known mode providing longer range shots with greater target specificity. This specialized version of the F-16, which can also carry the ALQ-119 Electronic Jamming Pod for self protection, became the sole provider for Air Force SEAD missions when the F-4G Wild Weasel was retired from the Air Force inventory. The lethal SEAD mission now rests solely on the shoulders of the F-16 Harm Targeting System. Although F-18s and EA-6Bs are HARM capable, the F-16 provides the ability to use the HARM in its most effective mode. The original concept called for teaming the F-15 Precision Direction Finding (PDF) and the F-16 HTS. Because this teaming concept is no longer feasible, the current approach calls for the improvement of the HTS capability. The improvement will come from the Joint Emitter Targeting System (JETS), which facilitates the use of HARM's most effective mode when launched from any JETS capable aircraft.
Block 60 - In May 1998 the UAE announced selection of the Block 60 F-16 to be delivered between 2002-2004. The upgrade package consists of a range of modern systems including conformal fuel tanks for greater range, new cockpit displays, an internal sensor suite, a new mission computer and other advanced features including a new agile beam radar.
F-16.net wrote:Official International names
Although "Fighting Falcon" has been adopted as the official name for the F-16 by many international customers, some airforces have indigenous names for (specific variants of) the F-16:
Netz: or 'Hawk' - used by the Israeli Air Force for its F-16A/B aircraft.
Barak: or 'Lightning' - used by the Israeli Air Force for its F-16C/D (block 30 & 40) aircraft.
Sufa: or 'Storm' - used by the Israeli Air Force for its F-16I aircraft.
KF-16: Designation used by the RoKAF to denote the South Korean produced F-16s. Note that this designation does not follow the US Tri-Service designation system. The 'K' simply stands for Korea in this particular case.
Jastrzab: or 'Hawk' - used by the Polish Air Force for its F-16C/D block 52 aircraft.
lastcrusade101 wrote:^ dope ass answer TBH
I guess I’m just being autistic about it TBH. I would have prefered if for the IDF, it just added the local nickname after the real life designation (like F-16C Barak).
wikipedia.org wrote:Designation: United States General Dynamics F-16C/D;
Entered Service: 1987-;
Hebrew designation: Barak (Lightning) ברק;
lastcrusade101 wrote:The KF-16 is different to me since thats a different designation, not a nickname. Same for the F-15K Slam Eagle. Which I wish was in the game soooo badly lol
lastcrusade101 wrote:Seperate question, why does South Korea have 2 FK-16s and one F-16? Shouldn’t they all be KF-16Cs?
f-16.net wrote:Peace Bridge II
Locally, the F-16s will be designated KF-16. Under the terms of the agreement, Lockheed Fort Worth will manufacture the first 12 aircraft, the next 36 will be delivered in kit form and assembled in South Korea, whereas the last 72 will be built in South Korea by Samsung Aerospace.
Fodder wrote:Scheintot887 wrote:...
Yeah, using local names is great and using english to pronounce of kanji characters is the best way to do it, but its inconsistent.
Fodder wrote:Instead of using english word for Tan-SAM short arrow it should've been Tan-SAM chikaku ya or hachi-ju ichi shiki SAM, and for Guntank it should've been hachi-nana shiki jiso kosha kikanbo.
Fodder wrote:But then there bigger problems then unit names.