Sorry guys
No time for it! I would go there if i was travelling alone
Also 1000 post!!! Quite a feat for an offtopic foreign language thread
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keldon wrote:another505 wrote:rex88 wrote:Yeah, what Keldon said, new one in Beijing as well as the Minsk. August first is the big day, nobody knows if there will be another parade.
Better see some new wares if there is one, at least su-35s and the new light tank.
Don't forget to make some pics, i have high expectations from you. ^^
btw. expectations...
taken from fyjs, a short overview of wannabee prophets. Did a quick search on google, but only found recent ones, the older ones must be in archive or somethingSpoiler : :
I guess they never thought chinese could also predict and prevent


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keldon wrote:rex88 wrote:
Hopefully our dear friend finds time for the new museum in Beijing; this is said to be one of the exhibits:
http://mil.huanqiu.com/photo_china/2017 ... 1.html#p=5
rumors exploded from this model. Like, is the J-20 gonna get navalized and such, it also putting on fuel for the flame war between SAC and CAC supporters. It also seems that most of the non-land vehicles are just 1:1 scale models.
Make sense for j20 to be navalized. It has entered service already and there seem to be no new project of planes immediately
Also j20 nice range will work well with it
Im definitely more cac person

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another505 wrote:Make sense for j20 to be navalized. It has entered service already and there seem to be no new project of planes immediately
Also j20 nice range will work well with it
Im definitely more cac person
A shame you couldn't go.

btw. careful to mention your CAC allegiance in chinese forum, the flame war over there makes the eugen offtopic section like a kindergarten.


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This will be a long post.
First a really recent article about the wishful thinking of imminent economic collapse
https://www.forbes.com/sites/kenrapoza/ ... 774e1548df
and when we mention collapse, you can't ignore the father of collapse: Gordon Chang. A very nice post on sinodefence about the whole phenomenon.
While we are at it, prof. Jin Canrong did a talk/lecture about world development tendencies, i highly recommend it.
btw. Ernest, this is the exhibit in Beijing, opened 2 days ago.
Also, a documentary about VT-4, many interior footages. Due to the nature of the tank, you should expect some exaggerations
Oh, and remember when i asked you about 圣母病, Ernest? They made a song about it.
First a really recent article about the wishful thinking of imminent economic collapse
https://www.forbes.com/sites/kenrapoza/ ... 774e1548df
and when we mention collapse, you can't ignore the father of collapse: Gordon Chang. A very nice post on sinodefence about the whole phenomenon.
Spoiler : :
While we are at it, prof. Jin Canrong did a talk/lecture about world development tendencies, i highly recommend it.
btw. Ernest, this is the exhibit in Beijing, opened 2 days ago.
Also, a documentary about VT-4, many interior footages. Due to the nature of the tank, you should expect some exaggerations
Oh, and remember when i asked you about 圣母病, Ernest? They made a song about it.


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Frencho wrote:Can you translate this?
Do it with google translate, if you are interested. I won't bother with such a large text.
From what i get by fly over it, it's buisness stories of a real estate company.

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90th anniversary parade in Zhurihe exercise ground. Full video.

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keldon wrote:Frencho wrote:Can you translate this?
Do it with google translate, if you are interested. I won't bother with such a large text.
From what i get by fly over it, it's buisness stories of a real estate company.
Where do you live in China that you’ve never been to a Wanda Cinema or walked into Sunac properties?
And that article I linked is not “Ideologue” Western media, it Chinese and sourced from the People's Bank of China (PBOC)!
Both those CEOs put their companies at over 200% debt ratio, are under investigation and they might be prosecuted and face jail time in PRC not USA…
This is as bad as Cineplex or NAI Global in North America edging bankruptcy and closing some divisions. So, both Wanda and Sunac are not in a good financial position also both companies have real estate and entertainment companies/studios, a lot of it…
Moreover, Wanda had to sell Lionsgate Films this week!
Cmon, you have to translate we suffered through the Great Wall and the Transformers movies!
Yet the Forbes article you linked dismisses the housing bubble and the shadow lending as water under the bridge and it's all rosy Lilly white.
And goes basically like this: FUCK YOU SOROS & BARCLAYS RENMIBI IS NOT 7 TO 1 BUT 6.74 TO 1!!! HA!!!! SUCK IT!!!!!!!!
That’s just lame.
Especially knowing Chinese are notorious for cooking and trafficking their economic numbers, markers and indicators.
Also, China has announced 3 trillion in FX reserves and a huge balance sheet on the central bank, if Soros's 4 billion total wealth can move the Renmibi we need to have words…
Labelling fact based western remarks on the Chinese economy as ideological drivel is pathetic.
China's economy is not collapsing, but it has SERIOUS issues and they need to stop pretending they can keep growing at double digits. China’s rise was meteoric, impressive but it can’t last forever.
Last but not least, I’d still rate Japan as the world’s second largest economy. At least we can trust the numbers they disclose.
This is coming from a Westerner, one of those pesky "Ideologues" whose very own Media and civil society keeps bashing their own country's finances, criticizing their own national economies and their own "Elites" thrice as much as they do China or Russia.
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Frencho wrote:And that article I linked is not “Ideologue” Western media, it Chinese and sourced from the People's Bank of China (PBOC)!
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This is coming from a Westerner, one of those pesky "Ideologues" whose very own Media and civil society keeps bashing their own country's finances, criticizing their own national economies and their own "Elites" thrice as much as they do China or Russia.
By what you have written yourself just above, China is aware of those failures.
If you think Chinese are in any way less critical compared to "free thinking ideologues" on this side, then you really need to frequent the Chinese news outlet more. But you'll have to do it with google translate or learn Chinese yourself, because the volume of those text will be far too large than what i'm willing to do in my spare time.
btw. i don't think a pure "fact based" media is a thing, "agenda driven" is what i would conclude after 20+ years (and counting) in Germany. As to the issues with "agenda driven" media there is also a fairly good post from sinodefence:
Spoiler : :
I know from your Posts, that you are a person with strong opinion, and your conviction about what you perceive as right or just is firm. The posts i made about the past 20 years of doom saying about the economic malais is NOT to invalidate every articles out there that express concerns about the chinese economy, it's has rather more to do with what is written in that post above in spoiler tag. It is something that skews the reporting quite a bit and thus incapable to present a good prediction.
So if your problem is that you think someone is towing the party line or is in need of some enlightment, then you could have just said so. No need to play smug and "wanting a translation", I would have gave you what you are now reading.
btw. i'm still waiting for you to answer why you have been increasing the frontal facing arc from 30° to 60° as the discussion went on to suit your narative.

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Frencho wrote:China's economy is not collapsing, but it has SERIOUS issues and they need to stop pretending they can keep growing at double digits. China’s rise was meteoric, impressive but it can’t last forever.
Forgot about this one. No one is expecting China to infinitely growing at double digits, not the think tank in China nor my German professor in early 2000. The question was always "how long will the rapid growth stop and the next phase of economic transformation start?"
Does China have issues? Of course, why would you think anybody would deny it? But the doom prophecies like what Gordon Chang is making are similar to when i say: "heed my words, you will die!"
And you know my prediction is absolutely true.


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