[MOD] Army of the Czech Republic 2014

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[MOD] Army of the Czech Republic 2014

Postby jonas165 » Tue 11 Mar 2014 10:54

Hello everyone,

I wanted to start a mod project and I came up with the idea to make a mod which brings the army of Czechoslovakia on a modern standard, by which I mean the Army of the Czech Republic today. Why Czechoslovakia? Actually, I have no idea, it was more or less a random choice. But anyway, here is what I am planning to do:

- Add new units and change stats of existing units to bring the Czech army in ALB on a modern standard
- Update thier infantry with modern weapons (only the stats, if the model is not possible to edit)
- Maybe reskin some stuff and add new unit cards, but that has a lower priority
- Remove units that are not in service anymore (maybe I will do some exceptions here)

Some additional information:

- Copycats only. Even if bringing new models in the game will be possible one day, I doubt my moddeling skills can make a unit look nice among wargame's unit models
- No updating/direct balancing effects on other nations. This also includes that all past 1985 units will be prototypes
- CZ will stay a PACT nation, though they might get some NATO equipment

Unfortunately, I am not so well informed about the Army of the Czech Republic right now. Of course I am researching, but some help with, for example, prototypes or naming infantry would be apprechiated. But I will ask again when I have a specific question. I am working at a unit list right know, which I will post later. Feel free to add anything that fits in the creteria above.

I will keep this post updated with progress and further infos.
Thanks for reading,
Jonas

UPDATE:

My presumed unit list for now. Might change it later though.

Spoiler : unit list :
LOG
    Rover CV
    OT-64 KVPT CV
    BVP-1 CV
    maybe BVP-2 CV
    T-72M1K
    FOB
    T813
    T815

INF
I will leave the Basic infantry structure as it is, only change the weapon loadouts to modern weapons, for example:

    RBS 70
    CZ-805 BREN
    Scorpion EVO 3 A1
    maybe M4A3 Bushmaster and FGM-148 Javelin :twisted:

SUP
    Strela-10M
    KUB-M
    KUB-M2
    Strop 2
    DANA
    DANA-M1 CZ
    ShM-120 PRAM-S
    RM-70

TNK
    T-72
    T-72M
    T-72M1
    T-72M4cz

REC
    BPvZ Satavana
    Iveco LMV
    Rover Scout
    Mi-2

VHC
    BRDM-2 Konkurs
    BRDM-2 Konkurs-M
    Pandur II 8x8 CZ Transport
    T815 Transport
    Rover Transport
    BVP-1 Transport
    BVP-1P Transport
    BVP-2 Transport

HEL
    Mi-35
    upgraded Mi-35 (designation missing, called it Mi-35cz for now, any suggestions welcome)
    Mi-17 unarmed Transport
    Mi-171Sh (copy of USSR´s imgame Mi-17) Transport
    maybe Mi-35 Transport
    W-3 Sokol

PLA
    L-159 ALCA (multiple variants with different loadouts)
    maybe JAS-39 Gripen (based on the JAS-37 model though...)
    MiG-29 (I know it´s not in Service anymore, but yeah, why not? :twisted: )
    Su-25
    MiG-23
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Re: [MOD] Army of the Czech Republic 2014

Postby The W:AB Noob » Tue 11 Mar 2014 15:12

Is this just for fun?
It sounds a bit cool, but not much to mod, since if you are not making new models, there is very little to change.

Tell me if you need help!
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Re: [MOD] Army of the Czech Republic 2014

Postby jonas165 » Tue 11 Mar 2014 15:28

Basicly yes. It´s my first mod and I am trying to get used to the mod tools. If I gain a bit more expirience, I thought of adding stuff like smoke screens for vehicles. I saw Iris modding this before and was quite impressed by it. I also want to try to make individual plane loadouts, don´t know how far this is possible though.

Anyway, IMO RD will offer greater potential for modding because of the new AI, naval warfare,...So I though when I learn the basic stuff now, I can start a bigger project then.
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Re: [MOD] Army of the Czech Republic 2014

Postby The W:AB Noob » Tue 11 Mar 2014 16:07

jonas165 wrote:Basicly yes. It´s my first mod and I am trying to get used to the mod tools. If I gain a bit more expirience, I thought of adding stuff like smoke screens for vehicles. I saw Iris modding this before and was quite impressed by it. I also want to try to make individual plane loadouts, don´t know how far this is possible though.

Anyway, IMO RD will offer greater potential for modding because of the new AI, naval warfare,...So I though when I learn the basic stuff now, I can start a bigger project then.


That's the same idea of my Movie Mod. (If you wanna try doing some basic help, I can use a bit...)
Iris is a legendary modder, along with enohka, D-M, eMeM, Randomletters, and Vasto. I don't think I'll ever be like them, though I try. It's hard to get a W:AB modding status like that, and you need time, commitment, and mad skills/talent. (I don't have any of those) Maybe you could too though.

I had an idea once for plane loadouts.
Say you want a CF-18 that has loadout with cluster bombs, MRAAM's, and napalm.
You can take an infantry unit like the Chasseur Famas, name it CF-18 pilot, then use the CF-18 as an APC. (To do this, do not change the CF-18 at all, change the inf carriers in modules, and make inf plane category)
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Re: [MOD] Army of the Czech Republic 2014

Postby jonas165 » Fri 14 Mar 2014 08:24

There doesn´t seem to be much interest in this mod, but I updated OP with a unit list.
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Re: [MOD] Army of the Czech Republic 2014

Postby The W:AB Noob » Fri 14 Mar 2014 23:39

I think a lot of the modders have gone on to W:RD beta...

Question: Will your mod only change czech units or will you do more things like making it only czech vs France or something?
(BTW, renaming file is ZZ_Win.dat, make sure to change right language)
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Re: [MOD] Army of the Czech Republic 2014

Postby jonas165 » Sat 15 Mar 2014 06:09

The W:AB Noob wrote:I think a lot of the modders have gone on to W:RD beta...

Question: Will your mod only change czech units or will you do more things like making it only czech vs France or something?
(BTW, renaming file is ZZ_Win.dat, make sure to change right language)


My aim is to integrate a modern czech army in ALB without affecting any other armies. Depending on how much time it takes for me to finish, I might later update another nation.

I don´t quite understand what you mean by that, but I think my mod will only be compatible with the English version of ALB.
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Re: [MOD] Army of the Czech Republic 2014

Postby Vestly » Wed 26 Mar 2014 18:33

BRAMS is slovak modernization of Strop-2 , not czech one.

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Re: [MOD] Army of the Czech Republic 2014

Postby Mr0Buggy » Wed 26 Mar 2014 20:59

T-72M3Cz, not T-72M2Cz. T-72M2 is Slovak Moderna.
Also afaik Sokols are Transport/Medevac only. None of them are capable of carrying ordinance.

For other units refer to both CSSR RD DLC threads, also valka.cz site might be of service to you.

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Re: [MOD] Army of the Czech Republic 2014

Postby jonas165 » Thu 27 Mar 2014 09:17

Vestly wrote:BRAMS is slovak modernization of Strop-2 , not czech one.


Thanks, I will take it from the list then.

Mr0Buggy wrote:T-72M3Cz, not T-72M2Cz. T-72M2 is Slovak Moderna.
Also afaik Sokols are Transport/Medevac only. None of them are capable of carrying ordinance.

For other units refer to both CSSR RD DLC threads, also valka.cz site might be of service to you.


German Wiki said the designation for the T-72M in the Czechoslovakia was T-72M1cz and the T-72M1 was called T-72M2cz. So this is wrong? Is threre a tank named T-72M2cz then?

About the Sokol: I know that, but an armed variant is the only possibility I have if I want to include it. It´s quite a bit of stretch, yeah, but it´s not a Chimera, so I will probably do a copycat of the Polish one.
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