What are the 5 most powerful Nations and why?

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Re: What are the 5 most powerful Nations and why?

Postby CornProducts » Thu 24 Apr 2014 07:30

1. Czechoslovakia----STROP 2, Pruz, Jedonkidonks, Vydra's I&II, Glorious Albatross of Glorious design + a dozen other units you've never heard of before.

2-5---- See above.

I see this thread as just an excuse to argue biased opinions, plus some nationalistic wee-wee waggin'.

So there you go. CzechDzechisBestDzech. Sue me.
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Re: What are the 5 most powerful Nations and why?

Postby Babubudu » Thu 24 Apr 2014 08:33

1 - France (best all around)
2 - US (So many good units, best air force and that AH64)
3 - SK (Good all around)
4 - USSR (Good units just heavy overpriced)
5 - CSSR (Good cheap units, just try their cheap planes and AA)

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Postby Uncle_Uzi » Thu 24 Apr 2014 08:54

Well hey now, we've got two mentions for NSWP here, one after the other.

I have actually never even played with NSWP, let alone looked through the decks. It's funny, considering they are always seen as somewhat less capable in the grand scheme.

Do they get their own distinct advantages like Scandinavia? Would you really contend that NSWP belongs on the table with '95 NATO decks?

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Re: What are the 5 most powerful Nations and why?

Postby Rusknight » Thu 24 Apr 2014 09:02

Uncle_Uzi wrote:Well hey now, we've got two mentions for NSWP here, one after the other.

I have actually never even played with NSWP, let alone looked through the decks. It's funny, considering they are always seen as somewhat less capable in the grand scheme.

Do they get their own distinct advantages like Scandinavia? Would you really contend that NSWP belongs on the table with '95 NATO decks?



Poland, East Germany, Czechoslovakia - none of them is strong enough as a stand alone nation now (mostly becouse none of them have enough good airplanes and airdefense to fill the deck) but they are quite strong together as a coallition when you can mix their units in one deck. They don't have any high-tech units but they have a lot of cheap and cost-effective.
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Re: What are the 5 most powerful Nations and why?

Postby Uncle_Uzi » Thu 24 Apr 2014 09:20

So you're saying they're even Zerg-ier than the Norks/Chinese?

If so, should I consider replacing my Chinese reservists AI spam deck? I like being able to just fight against hordes of infantry and cheap tanks for a laugh. Is Czechoslovakia better for this ultimately?

Blasting through hordes of Chinamen is on the cusp of becoming stale.

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Re: What are the 5 most powerful Nations and why?

Postby Rusknight » Thu 24 Apr 2014 09:39

Uncle_Uzi wrote:So you're saying they're even Zerg-ier than the Norks/Chinese?

If so, should I consider replacing my Chinese reservists AI spam deck? I like being able to just fight against hordes of infantry and cheap tanks for a laugh. Is Czechoslovakia better for this ultimately?

Blasting through hordes of Chinamen is on the cusp of becoming stale.


No, I didn't say they are Zerg-ier.
NSWP is stronger than China and North Korea cause it has much better airforce what is important when you play multiplayer against other people.

As for creating a deck for AI to play against hordes of cheap units leaded by it - you can simply mix all cheap units from redfor or blufor in one deck and play against them if you want so. Try to play against 2 or 3 "very hard" AI oponents alone - that's what I would advice you actually ;)
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Re: What are the 5 most powerful Nations and why?

Postby [EUG]MadMat » Thu 24 Apr 2014 10:18

LoneRifle wrote:This topic is gonna descend into a shitshow pretty soon....... it just begs for it.

My original though too, but people seem to behave for now ... :D
If everybody just give his own ranking without making acerbic comments about others', it can be interesting.

But one must take in consideration the fact that playstyle influences a nation's "power" in the eyes of players.
A player for whom air force or tanks are the key elements for a battlegroup, because he knows how to get the best of them, might not like a nation considered more powerful by others because it doesn't fit him.
I.e. I would personnaly always have a better win ratio with nations with an emphasis on good Motorized decks (France, Poland, CSSR, USSR, China, ...) over any nation with the biggest and more powerful tanks and planes.

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Re: What are the 5 most powerful Nations and why?

Postby Brutoni » Thu 24 Apr 2014 10:22

[EUG]MadMat wrote:
LoneRifle wrote:I.e. I would personnaly always have a better win ratio with nations with an emphasis on good Motorized decks (France, Poland, CSSR, USSR, China, ...) over any nation with the biggest and more powerful tanks and planes.


Decks with good Marine, Airborne and Tank elements are what I need. Other nations can be powerful but as you say they don't fit my play style at all.

USA, UK, USSR, Poland and Germany would rank as mine.

I wouldn't want to guess at the 5 most powerful nations across the board. I tend to have to much fun with specialised decks and less common nations (Poland and Germany)
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Re: What are the 5 most powerful Nations and why?

Postby [EUG]MadMat » Thu 24 Apr 2014 10:30

Brutoni wrote:I wouldn't want to guess at the 5 most powerful nations across the board. I tend to have to much fun with specialised decks and less common nations

Same.

My "most played" decks (instead of "most powerful") are:

1/ Polish
2/ Red Dragon
3/ French
4/ Downunders
5/ Chinese

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Re: What are the 5 most powerful Nations and why?

Postby BoatLoadsofDope » Thu 24 Apr 2014 10:47

I tend to think China is a good nation, lacks ATGM infantry just like U.S and some other nations... Lì Jiàn... Better than Delta force as it stands now. I also tend to think the Chinese got better overall infantry than U.S... But who doesen't after all murican military doctrine is get as many rounds towards the enemy as possible making up for their lack of skill and courage against Superior chinese "master race".

Not to mention the HQ-7 that will end all Apaches lifes before they get into range with it's 3325m range against helicopters, also not to forget is the Ptz-89 that merciless slaughters all tanks with it's 21 Ap for just 60 points, and it got a goddamn turret.

Until muricans get despereate and send in all of their airforce...

Stereotype over.

However, with no doubt french is pretty strong, (or in Eugen eyes) more like very well balanced, they actually are very easy to handle, and their units in my opinion is decent priced, can't complain about their arty or Airforce really.

USSR: In my opinion has it all, can't really complain about most of their units, except that the price range for some units is.. A bit over the top, the T72BU could use a price drop. And many of the tanks the USSR,

Call me crazy, but i tend to think BDR has some prety nice cost efficient hardware too and durable, price not too bad neither... Except you get the exact same Roland 3 as the french... Just for 5 points more, and with 100 km less than the french.
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