IronHat wrote:[EUG]MadMat wrote:We are not modeling armies, but divisions.
And doing so, we are giving each division its exact TO&E, then we're adding some extra units as attachments when we feel it is needed.
A German Panzerdivision had an organic Panther battalion of ~75-80 tanks. Theorically that is, for 20. panzer was missing the Panther battalion entirely (hence none ingame) & although 21. Panzer had the proper number of 2 battalions, the one which should have Panther still had old Panzer IV & Somua by the time the Allied landed in Normandy.
And we're sticking to those numbers.
Now, let's check the 3rd Canadian Infantry Division which had ... no tank. Not one. All of its tanks are attachment from 2nd Canadian Armored Brigade. And in such brigades, Firefly only accounted for under 10% of the total. Which is exactly the ratio of Firefly among the tanks we've attached to 3CID.
the proportion for Firefly seems a bit off.
Panzer lehr (which was extravagantly lavished with tanks) had ~86 panther out of a total of ~200 tanks.
the paper number of tanks for a british tank division was 343, 205 of which were medium tank. Standard tactic was 1 Sherman VC to every 3 Sherman V. This means 36 of those 205 medium tanks were Firefly. (~18%)
An british independent tank brigade would have had roughly the same number of medium tanks as a regular british tank division. The biggest difference between a divisional brigade and the independent tank brigade was the presence of the motor/mechanized battalion. An british independent was basically the medium tank of a tank division without the division, as the accompany infantry division would be expected to have those.
2nd Canadian Armoured Brigade was a special in that some of their squadron were entirely equipped with DDV for the landing.
You're rounding up the percentage of fireflys as they were not included in the regt or sqn HQ. Only 342 Fireflys deployed to 21 Army for the Invasion. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_A ... rld_War_II
Compare with number of Panther's deployed during Normandy with Pz Div : 623 (2000 Zetterling pg 60)
Tiger's for D-Day counted up another 126. ( 2000 Zetterling pg59)
2nd and 9th Pz had 79 Panther's for Normandy which is line with paper pz div.