4 new Nations in W:ALB. what are they?

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4 new Nations in W:ALB. what are they?

Postby WWWallace71 » Fri 10 Aug 2012 21:28

Let the Discussion Commence!!
what's your best bet? (first four are obvious, I don't see Eugen taking out these 4 to replace them with others)

PACT:
USSR
East Germany
Poland
Czechoslovakia

Romania
Hungary
Bulgaria

NATO:
US
UK
West Germany
France

Canada
Spain
Greece
Sweden/Finland/Norway
Belgium
Denmark
Turkey
Italy
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Re: 4 new Nations in W:ALB. what are they?

Postby Mazz » Fri 10 Aug 2012 21:30

Sweden and Canada are obvious because they bring new units to the table. The rest seems a bit of a toss up.
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Re: 4 new Nations in W:ALB. what are they?

Postby DiabloTigerSix » Fri 10 Aug 2012 21:33

WWWallace71 wrote:PACT:
Czech Republic
Slovakia

But these 2 countries are in NATO :lol: Figure the rest 8-)

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Re: 4 new Nations in W:ALB. what are they?

Postby WWWallace71 » Fri 10 Aug 2012 21:38

DiabloTigerSix wrote:
WWWallace71 wrote:PACT:
Czech Republic
Slovakia

But these 2 countries are in NATO :lol: Figure the rest 8-)


they were in PACT in WEE, I just presumed that the Czech Republic would continue to be PACT in this game as its taking place during the same time.
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Re: 4 new Nations in W:ALB. what are they?

Postby [EUG]MadMat » Fri 10 Aug 2012 21:41

They were in the Pact, indeed, but they were a single country at that time: Czechoslovakia.

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Postby WWWallace71 » Fri 10 Aug 2012 21:43

Mazz wrote:Sweden and Canada are obvious because they bring new units to the table. The rest seems a bit of a toss up.


I Find Romania to be a pretty good PACT choice, as they did create (modify) a lot of soviet vehicles with ERA, like the TR-85M1 (1986 which is stretching it) which is still in service with the Romanian Army today. It's essentially a fat T-55 with a lot of bolted on Armour and optics.

Personally I think at least one of the Scandinavian countries (probably Sweden), Canada, Romania, and maybe someone smaller like Belgium are shoe-ins, but we'll see. I just made this thread because its fun discussing new units
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Re: 4 new Nations in W:ALB. what are they?

Postby WWWallace71 » Fri 10 Aug 2012 21:44

[EUG]MadMat wrote:They were in the Pact, indeed, but they were a single country at that time: Czechoslovakia.


Ah. I wasn't too sure when they split when I made the thread, just took a gamble.
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Re: 4 new Nations in W:ALB. what are they?

Postby [EUG]MadMat » Fri 10 Aug 2012 21:45

Among those you're quoting:
- Albania left WP in 1968.
- Spain joined NATO in 1982 only.
- Finland & Sweden were neutral.

That said, one of them will nonetheless be included in W:AB ... ;)

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Re: 4 new Nations in W:ALB. what are they?

Postby obssesednuker » Fri 10 Aug 2012 21:49

Prior to 1993, the Czech Republic and Slovakia were the same nation: Czechoslovakia. And prior to 1989 that single nation was, indeed, part of the Warsaw Pact. The OP would be accurate if it removed "Slovakia" and changed the "Czech Republic" to "Czechoslovakia".

Two more corrections for the OP: Albania withdrew from the Pact in 1968 when it sided with China in the Sino-Soviet Split and you forgot Italy.

In any case, to keep things equal we are probably looking at 2 nations for each faction. My guess for the Pact would be Bulgaria and Hungary. Romania at this time wasn't in much of a condition to be attacking anything...

For NATO... well, the Norway is obvious. Whether they would bring in Sweden or not is a legit question, but if they did its hard to see them not aligning with NATO. So is whether Finland could be counted as either NATO or Pact, seeing as how their position in the Cold War was... awkward.

If they do count the Scandinavian countries as one, then my next bet would be Spain. Why? I don't know, I'm just guessing.

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Re: 4 new Nations in W:ALB. what are they?

Postby Crotou » Fri 10 Aug 2012 21:53

Norway, Denmark and Sweden had a mutual defense policy at that time...

So, in my opinion, the new four factions will be : Sweden, Norway, Denmark and Canada.
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