W:AB - Land units you want

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Re: W:AB - Land units you want

Postby Grabbed_by_the_Spets » Thu 7 Mar 2013 12:08

[EUG]MadMat wrote:SLR, aka "C1".
And the C2 too ...


Brilliant, that's basically confirms all I need for completing my themed deck!

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Re: W:AB - Land units you want

Postby Bob_Marley » Thu 7 Mar 2013 13:16

Grabbed_by_the_Spets wrote:Will Canadians be using the SLR? Or the C7?

Hopefully the SLR because Canadians will be substitutes for ANZAC soldiers in my deck and we don't really use AR-15 variants save special forces...


As I recall the M16A1 was employed quite extensively at the section level by regular NZDF and Australian units between Vietnam and the adoption of the Austeyr, usually used by section leaders, officers, radio operators, scouts, etc used alongside the Lithgow manufactured L1A1 (except in New Zealand where from 1985 troops only carried M16s until the adoption of the Austeyr in 1988)

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Re: W:AB - Land units you want

Postby TankHunter » Fri 8 Mar 2013 00:19

I don't know if this has been suggested before, but i'd like if the M2A1 had the TOW 2 as its ATGM, as a separate unit or as an upgrade, as it was introduced in 1986, with a major upgrade being the new launcher for TOW2s. Maybe and M901 TOW2, or LAV AT with TOW 2 as well/instead.

However, a unit I'd really like to see as a prototype would be the LAV-105 as a prototype only available to USMC national decks. Along with the aforementioned LAV-AT, and the Command variants, LAV-25, Mortar carrier, and maybe LAV-AD in small amounts.
Now onto Pact, I would love to see OT64/SKOT command vehicles for CSLA and Poland. I believe the SKOT R6 and R2 make the most sense, as the R2 is a battalion and up C&C vehicle, and the R6 i've found no info as to what level it is deployed at. The R3 and R4 are deployed at regimental and divisional level, and wouldn't serve any purpose in game better than the R2 and/or R6.
TLDR:I would prefer the SKOT R2 as it is a battalion level Command unit, and fits with the games scale.
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Re: W:AB - Land units you want

Postby Xeno426 » Fri 8 Mar 2013 04:36

There are no "USMC National Decks" because individual services are not modeled; you'd either see it as a US National Deck or nothing at all.
Besides, from what I've gathered you can only get prototype units from national decks anyway.
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Postby TankHunter » Fri 8 Mar 2013 05:26

Xeno426 wrote:There are no "USMC National Decks" because individual services are not modeled; you'd either see it as a US National Deck or nothing at all.
Besides, from what I've gathered you can only get prototype units from national decks anyway.


I understand that there is no USMC national deck, but it should be available only in USMC decks. As if you are using a Armored Cavalry deck, you cannot take the LAV-105. I already knew about the National decks, but decks can still be specialized in ways such as Armored, Infantry, etc. So any US deck limited to USMC units only could use the LAV-105.
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Postby Xeno426 » Fri 8 Mar 2013 08:44

I find the idea that Eugen would limit decks to such a micro scale extremely unlikely, since it would mean applying similar limitations to other national decks.
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Postby urielventis » Fri 8 Mar 2013 10:35

Xeno426 wrote:I find the idea that Eugen would limit decks to such a micro scale extremely unlikely, since it would mean applying similar limitations to other national decks.

An even greater level of customization is now available with the Deck type; it involves selecting only the equipment historically available to a certain group type, such as an airborne unit, a marine infantry unit, etc. For example, in the ‘Tank' category, an American airborne unit will be restricted to airborne tanks such as the Sheridan and the M8 AGS prototype, but in return, it will give you substantial advantages.

Finally, the third level of customization involves the period chosen for your Deck. If a Deck is considered as belonging to 1985 by default, with access to all the necessary equipment for its camp, it is quite possible to create a customized 1980 or 1975 Deck that will have only access to units available at the time. Again, in that case, bonuses bear significant advantages for those bold enough to make that choice!

So you can made a 1975 US marines deck.
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Re: W:AB - Land units you want

Postby [EUG]MadMat » Fri 8 Mar 2013 10:41

To answer the debate above:
- yes, US national deck will be possible.
- yes, a US national deck with "Marine" specialisation can be done too, which will restrict availability of equipment to USMC (or common) vehicles only.
- no, prototypes won't be set to be restricted to specialized deck, but to national ones only. Which means a Marine "prototype" SuperCobra will be available to a US national deck without specialization, not just a "national US" + "specialized" Marine.

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Re: W:AB - Land units you want

Postby Grabbed_by_the_Spets » Fri 8 Mar 2013 11:31

[EUG]MadMat wrote:To answer the debate above:
- yes, US national deck will be possible.
- yes, a US national deck with "Marine" specialisation can be done too, which will restrict availability of equipment to USMC (or common) vehicles only.
- no, prototypes won't be set to be restricted to specialized deck, but to national ones only. Which means a Marine "prototype" SuperCobra will be available to a US national deck without specialization, not just a "national US" + "specialized" Marine.


How exactly will deck bonuses work?

We know each nation get it's own bonus (ED, E-Germany is different from Canada which is different from Poland etc)

But what about specialization bonuses? will they be unique too? (Like USSR marine deck has different marine bonus as Norway Marines deck etc.) Or will will deck specializations be a set bonus for all decks (EG French Airborne bonus is French bonus + Airborne bonus and Czeck Airborne deck is bonus + Airborne bonus?)
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Re: W:AB - Land units you want

Postby chema1994 » Fri 8 Mar 2013 11:51

I heard something about free vet for inf in a Marine deck for example

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