Is STRV 103B OP?

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Re: Is STRV 103B OP?

Postby Buck Turgidson » Thu 27 Jun 2013 11:18

v-snejok wrote:
DiabloTigerSix wrote:Oh man, if I typed down the things I mean to say to you, mods would hw-ban me for eternity. So instead, I'm just kindly going to advise you to refrain from making any further balance threads until you learn the basics.

No day passes by without someone trying to rob the poor around here.


Lol, I know the basics, because I WIN in this game and it was TOO easy because I have strv's. Did you saw repley?
PACT have no analogue of this unit.


...which is because the factions are not meant to be complete mirrors of each other.
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Re: Is STRV 103B OP?

Postby Dimonay » Thu 27 Jun 2013 11:20

Buck Turgidson wrote:
v-snejok wrote:
DiabloTigerSix wrote:Oh man, if I typed down the things I mean to say to you, mods would hw-ban me for eternity. So instead, I'm just kindly going to advise you to refrain from making any further balance threads until you learn the basics.

No day passes by without someone trying to rob the poor around here.


Lol, I know the basics, because I WIN in this game and it was TOO easy because I have strv's. Did you saw repley?
PACT have no analogue of this unit.


...which is because the factions are not meant to be complete mirrors of each other.

and because no one else but Sweden built a tank like that

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Re: Is STRV 103B OP?

Postby stug41 » Thu 27 Jun 2013 11:21

v-snejok wrote:
DiabloTigerSix wrote:Oh man, if I typed down the things I mean to say to you, mods would hw-ban me for eternity. So instead, I'm just kindly going to advise you to refrain from making any further balance threads until you learn the basics.

No day passes by without someone trying to rob the poor around here.


Lol, I know the basics, because I WIN in this game and it was TOO easy because I have strv's. Did you saw repley?
PACT have no analogue of this unit.

You better go back in time and ask those Russians to make their own S-tanks then.

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Re: Is STRV 103B OP?

Postby v-snejok » Thu 27 Jun 2013 11:25

stug41 wrote:
v-snejok wrote:
DiabloTigerSix wrote:Oh man, if I typed down the things I mean to say to you, mods would hw-ban me for eternity. So instead, I'm just kindly going to advise you to refrain from making any further balance threads until you learn the basics.

No day passes by without someone trying to rob the poor around here.


Lol, I know the basics, because I WIN in this game and it was TOO easy because I have strv's. Did you saw repley?
PACT have no analogue of this unit.

You better go back in time and ask those Russians to make their own S-tanks then.


I mean no analogue for its price/performance, pact dont need same unit, but I think strv must cost 65-70.
Russian tanks are good, but pact always nerfed in game...

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Re: Is STRV 103B OP?

Postby Breadbox » Thu 27 Jun 2013 11:26

S-Tank Can into Rof
But S-Tank cannot into AP,S-Tank also cannot into turret and Speed!
S-Tank also Cannot Into Attack!
S-Tank also can run out of Fuel often
S-Tank not my type of tank
I no like S-Tank,using Leopard 1A1no instead

Die faster but More Ap,Faster,more powerful!
Sadly all other Leopard1 cannot into my deck
They are quite overpriced

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Re: Is STRV 103B OP?

Postby stug41 » Thu 27 Jun 2013 11:45

Ok, just for sh*ts I'm going to compare it to my favorite medium tank in the game, the T-64A, even though this is a combined arms game and comparing two units as if they were only going to face one another is a fallacy. You've already dismissed that since you assume everything must have an analogue.

http://i.imgur.com/wZxTRne.jpg
Both are availability 0/16/12/8/0

I'm not going to bother calculating the effect of the "small" size because I don't know the value of the modifier yet.

That that the T-64A and STRV 103B have chances to hit % of...
NA/33/38/41/NA
NA/39/44/48/NA
...respectively at 2100m.

The STRV 103B has a 50% ROF advantage, let's factor that in as a chance to hit for every cycle of the T-64A...
NA/52/58/62/NA

That's a pretty nice boost in CTH per cycle relative to the T-64A.

They are largely comparable otherwise but the s-tank has the edge in a standoff engagement. Ya, I guess for 5 points more the S-tank does look pretty damn nice; but wait, what's this? It hasn't a turret nor can it fire on the move? It's also got poor mobility and range? I guess there is something one trades off for other qualities after all!

Maybe a smart player would use that mobility and ability to fire on the move to their advantage and use one element to suppress the S-tanks to remove their accuracy and ROF advantage while another element moves up to a close range? Maybe?

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Re: Is STRV 103B OP?

Postby chrisnz » Thu 27 Jun 2013 11:58

too bad it has 5% accuracy on the move
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Re: Is STRV 103B OP?

Postby stug41 » Thu 27 Jun 2013 11:59

chrisnz wrote:too bad it has 5% accuracy on the move

If only someone were smart enough to have some of them stationary to suppress, amiright?

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Re: Is STRV 103B OP?

Postby chrisnz » Thu 27 Jun 2013 12:07

stug41 wrote:
chrisnz wrote:too bad it has 5% accuracy on the move

If only someone were smart enough to have some of them stationary to suppress, amiright?


The strv 103B isn't op. To keep it short...
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Re: Is STRV 103B OP?

Postby stug41 » Thu 27 Jun 2013 12:09

chrisnz wrote:
stug41 wrote:
chrisnz wrote:too bad it has 5% accuracy on the move

If only someone were smart enough to have some of them stationary to suppress, amiright?


The strv 103B isn't op. To keep it short...

Precisely. Thought you were referring to the T-64A in my post, my mistake.

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