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Re: Historical Deck Resource (Playing non-WAB things in WAB!

Postby Commissar Fuklaw » Mon 13 May 2013 02:00

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Added Falklands War. UK is pretty much...well under stress. Argentina will have issues with Armor, I have foreseen it.

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Re: Historical Deck Resource (Playing non-WAB things in WAB!

Postby Tac Error » Mon 13 May 2013 03:12

The Spanish Army section in this NATO OOB for wargamers might be of help:

http://www.microarmormayhem.com/NATO_OR ... _mod_8.doc
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Postby orcbuster » Mon 13 May 2013 03:13

If we could have mixed NATO/pact decks we could make a decent Iran-Iraq war deck
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Postby Mikeboy » Mon 13 May 2013 09:11

Commissar Fuklaw wrote:
catito14 wrote:Post


Added Falklands War. UK is pretty much...well under stress. Argentina will have issues with Armor, I have foreseen it.


Argentina did have 105mm recoilless rifles, though they weren't vehicle mounted I think you should include the M38A1 to represent that, plus it will give them a counter to British Scorpions.

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Postby Tiera » Mon 13 May 2013 14:55

Here's a typical combined-arms battlegroup of the Finnish Panssariprikaati, mid-1980s.

Logistics:
Command: SPW-50PU
URAL-4320 (to represent Zils 131s and Sisu trucks)
FOB x 2 (plenty of ammo for those mortars)

Infantry:
Panssarijääkäripataljoona
(3x12 Czechoslovakian Motorstrelci with BVP-1 (Representing BMP-1s without ATGMs, so switch missiles off)

Panssaripioneerijoukkue
1x4 East German Pionier in SPW-50PK

Pst-ohjusjoukkue
1x4 East German PALR Fagot with SPW-50PK (Representing AT missile platoon using Panssarintorjuntaohjus 82.

It-ohjusjoukkue
1x4 Soviet PZRK Igla with MT-LB (ItOhjus ItO 86M)

Support
Kranaatinheitinkomppania
3x2 Soviet MT-LB 82mm (company mortar platoons, Tampella 81mm)
Raskas krh-joukkue
1x3 Czechoslovakian ShM-120 PRAM-S (battalion-level heavy mortar platoon, Tampella 120mm)
Psv-ilmatorjuntakomppania
1x8 East German Fla SFL 57-2 (Ilmatorjuntapanssarivaunu SU-57-2)

Tank
2x8 Polish T-55AM Merida
1x8 Polish T-55AM2 Merida (representing Finnish T-55M with upgraded fire control systems. Should have more AP due new Sabot rounds bought from Benelux)
1x8 Czechoslovakian T-72M (Finnish T-72M1s)

Recon
1x6 East German SpPz PT-76B (armored recon company)
3x6 East German Grenzer with LKV Ural (company-level motorcycle scouts)

Vehicle
2x4 Soviet MT-LB Shturm-S (to represent separate Panssarintorjuntaohjuskomppania using NA-140 Nasu I-TOWs)

Plane
1x2 Polish Mig21bis
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Postby chema1994 » Mon 13 May 2013 14:58

I checked the OOB, but there are somethings that I cannot find:
- Some RIMZ (Mechanized Infantry Regiment) has 20mm wheeled SPAAG, but I don't know which could be. Actually the only 20mm SPAAG that I know is the VADS, which is tracked and not used by Spain.

Edited the old post. Also added Spanish Marines equipment.

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Postby trotskygrad » Mon 13 May 2013 16:07

Tiera wrote:Here's a typical combined-arms battlegroup of the Finnish Panssariprikaati, mid-1980s.

Logistics:
Command: SPW-50PU
URAL-4320 (to represent Zils 131s and Sisu trucks)
FOB x 2 (plenty of ammo for those mortars)

Infantry:
Panssarijääkäripataljoona
(3x12 Czechoslovakian Motorstrelci with BVP-1 (Representing BMP-1s without ATGMs, so switch missiles off)

Panssaripioneerijoukkue
1x4 East German Pionier in SPW-50PK

Pst-ohjusjoukkue
1x4 East German PALR Fagot with SPW-50PK (Representing AT missile platoon using Panssarintorjuntaohjus 82.

It-ohjusjoukkue
1x4 Soviet PZRK Igla with MT-LB (ItOhjus ItO 86M)

Support
Kranaatinheitinkomppania
3x2 Soviet MT-LB 82mm (company mortar platoons, Tampella 81mm)
Raskas krh-joukkue
1x3 Czechoslovakian ShM-120 PRAM-S (battalion-level heavy mortar platoon, Tampella 120mm)
Psv-ilmatorjuntakomppania
1x8 East German Fla SFL 57-2 (Ilmatorjuntapanssarivaunu SU-57-2)

Tank
2x8 Polish T-55AM Merida
1x8 Polish T-55AM2 Merida (representing Finnish T-55M with upgraded fire control systems. Should have more AP due new Sabot rounds bought from Benelux)
1x8 Czechoslovakian T-72M (Finnish T-72M1s)

Recon
1x6 East German SpPz PT-76B (armored recon company)
3x6 East German Grenzer with LKV Ural (company-level motorcycle scouts)

Vehicle
2x4 Soviet MT-LB Shturm-S (to represent separate Panssarintorjuntaohjuskomppania using NA-140 Nasu I-TOWs)

Plane
1x2 Polish Mig21bis


if we were allowed combined decks it would make more sense to use the actual tampellas, since the MT-LB 82mm is a bit lacking in range.
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Postby Commissar Fuklaw » Mon 13 May 2013 16:15

@work atm, I'll look into the above resources tonight along with a little something that it looks fun. :P
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Postby catito14 » Mon 13 May 2013 18:44

Mikeboy wrote:
Commissar Fuklaw wrote:
catito14 wrote:Post


Added Falklands War. UK is pretty much...well under stress. Argentina will have issues with Armor, I have foreseen it.


Argentina did have 105mm recoilless rifles, though they weren't vehicle mounted I think you should include the M38A1 to represent that, plus it will give them a counter to British Scorpions.


Indeed, we used (a lot) of the Czekalski 105mm recoiless rifle in the war. Also our infatry used the M-65 Instalaza, but idk what type of unit can emulate that .... Carl Gustav maybe? or the french AT?

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Postby chema1994 » Mon 13 May 2013 22:36

Mikeboy wrote:
Commissar Fuklaw wrote:
catito14 wrote:Post


Argentina did have 105mm recoilless rifles, though they weren't vehicle mounted I think you should include the M38A1 to represent that, plus it will give them a counter to British Scorpions.


Indeed, we used (a lot) of the Czekalski 105mm recoiless rifle in the war. Also our infatry used the M-65 Instalaza, but idk what type of unit can emulate that .... Carl Gustav maybe? or the french AT?

The M-65 Instalaza wasnt much better than LAWs

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