Fine-tuning NK/China

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Re: Fine-tuning NK/China

Postby Sgt._Pepper » Sat 19 Nov 2016 17:39

Won't the change from Type 69-III to RPG-7VR be a nerf to NK?

The RPG trades one more AP for 175m range. They both have base acc of 50 %, which means that the longer ranged Type 69-III is also more accurate.


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another505 wrote:For 45 points Bastion look likes free bonus to tank (like malutka on ot-64 or atgm on heavy Japanese IFV).


I don't think that the Jyu-MAT on the Hachi Kyu is free. If you compare it to the STRF 9040(most similar IFV, also 25 points), the STRF has more acc, more stab, more AP, better front and top armour.
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Re: Fine-tuning NK/China

Postby keldon » Sat 19 Nov 2016 17:50

Sgt._Pepper wrote:Won't the change from Type 69-III to RPG-7VR be a nerf to NK?

The RPG trades one more AP for 175m range. They both have base acc of 50 %, which means that the longer ranged Type 69-III is also more accurate.


Yes, it is a small nerf. I originally thought about suggesting a 5 pts price cut, but i find it really hard to do. As compensation the base Yuckjeondae got alot better and a viable sidegrade to Lijian '75.
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Re: Fine-tuning NK/China

Postby keldon » Sat 19 Nov 2016 23:58

To support Youzhe's claim on Mi-17 as helo for China, here is a excerpt from a book on modern day Chinese arm deals.

original thread with the part of book as picture:

http://www.fyjs.cn/thread-1846222-1-1.html

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blablabla... the contract for first batch of Mi-17 were signed in April 1990 with the Soviet Union.

I somehow had the year 1994 in the head when it comes to Mi-17, oh well, another elegible unit, i think.
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Re: Fine-tuning NK/China

Postby another505 » Sun 20 Nov 2016 00:08

keldon wrote:To support Youzhe's claim on Mi-17 as helo for China, here is a excerpt from a book on modern day Chinese arm deals.

original thread with the part of book as picture:

http://www.fyjs.cn/thread-1846222-1-1.html

Summary:

blablabla... the contract for first batch of Mi-17 were signed in April 1990 with the Soviet Union.

I somehow had the year 1994 in the head when it comes to Mi-17, oh well, another elegible unit, i think.

Put some Type 90 rockets on it, and its pretty good
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Re: Fine-tuning NK/China

Postby keldon » Sun 20 Nov 2016 00:10

another505 wrote:Put some Type 90 rockets on it, and its pretty good


I recommend some type-130 though, for that extra range and boom.
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Re: Fine-tuning NK/China

Postby another505 » Sun 20 Nov 2016 00:11

keldon wrote:
another505 wrote:Put some Type 90 rockets on it, and its pretty good


I recommend some type-130 though, for that extra range and boom.

Sad to not see much chinese indigenous rockets ingame
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Re: Fine-tuning NK/China

Postby Sgt._Pepper » Sun 20 Nov 2016 00:18

another505 wrote:
keldon wrote:
another505 wrote:Put some Type 90 rockets on it, and its pretty good


I recommend some type-130 though, for that extra range and boom.

Sad to not see much chinese indigenous rockets ingame


Hopefully that changes with the RD/BD patch.
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Re: Fine-tuning NK/China

Postby another505 » Sun 20 Nov 2016 05:55

Sgt._Pepper wrote:
another505 wrote:Sad to not see much chinese indigenous rockets ingame


Hopefully that changes with the RD/BD patch.

Doubt it, it wont fix RD's main problem, it requires a new unit to hold it, and a new weapon
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Re: Fine-tuning NK/China

Postby remilia019 » Sun 20 Nov 2016 05:59

another505 wrote:
Sgt._Pepper wrote:
another505 wrote:Sad to not see much chinese indigenous rockets ingame


Hopefully that changes with the RD/BD patch.

Doubt it, it wont fix RD's main problem, it requires a new unit to hold it, and a new weapon

Well who knows maybe the RD/BD patch will be a Scandinavia scale DLC, then new units can be expected //optimism ho!
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Re: Fine-tuning NK/China

Postby keldon » Sun 20 Nov 2016 16:57

First post updated with:

- Bibanchungpo to RPG-7V FIST and rename to Hwaryok-jiwon-ban

- Type-73 mg for all shock and elite infantry using ammobelt (20 hits burst), RPD goes to Bochongsu with stab and CQC
- Jeogockdae '90 loadout change: Type-68 AR; Type 68-I (RPG-7V); Type-73; Price to 25 pts (Basically Morskaya clone)
- Yuckjeondae '75 loadout change: Scorpion SMG; Type-68-I (RPG-7V); Type-73
- Yuckjeondae '90 loadout change: AKS-74U; Type-68-III (RPG-7VR); RPK


The underlining consideration has been posted in the last few pages, this is taken into account that in the 79-80s NK and USSR are much closer and I doubt China would have sent NK their most recent advancement in RPG grenades, especially when hypothetical NK and USSR are best buddies ever with alot of Soviet RPG grenades already handed out to them.

However I still have one issue: Yuckjeondae '75 will still be much better than Jeogockdae '90 after the changes. I thought about given them RPG-7VR, but that launcher is considered a clear +5 weapon, beside the obvious advantage over Morskaya in SovKor. So, any ideas?
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