Why are my infantry obliterated by tanks in close quarters?

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Why are my infantry obliterated by tanks in close quarters?

Postby JuggernautOfWar » Wed 1 May 2013 13:26

Why are my infantry obliterated by tanks in close quarters such as forests and towns? I have used many different types of infantry. Often before they ever get a shot off the tanks open fire and mow them down. The tanks stun the infantry almost immediately, causing my infantry to panic rather than return fire. It really should be the other way around. Tanks should be shocked by ambushing infantry. Is this an intentional 'feature' or am I missing something?

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Re: Why are my infantry obliterated by tanks in close quarte

Postby lemonsquid » Wed 1 May 2013 13:36

Seems like the tanks either knew where your infantry were, or you had your guys moving. Whenever my infantry are hidden in a forest or urban area, they always get their close range missile shots before tanks react. I just suspect some recon units could see your infantry.
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Re: Why are my infantry obliterated by tanks in close quarte

Postby JuggernautOfWar » Wed 1 May 2013 13:40

This is not an isolated incident though. I would understand if they were running around or something, but having hidden infantry take longer to aim their LAWs than the tank to aim its machine gun is ridiculous.
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Re: Why are my infantry obliterated by tanks in close quarte

Postby Firestarter » Wed 1 May 2013 13:55

lemonsquid wrote:Seems like the tanks either knew where your infantry were, or you had your guys moving. Whenever my infantry are hidden in a forest or urban area, they always get their close range missile shots before tanks react. I just suspect some recon units could see your infantry.

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Re: Why are my infantry obliterated by tanks in close quarte

Postby DoktorvonWer » Wed 1 May 2013 14:01

Infantry currently are largely a joke. As Firestarter says, in W:ALB they're currently useless.


... They've been made virtually impossible to remove from towns once dug in, but also almost entirely useless in forests and any other terrain.

... 2-man specialist teams are all very well with regards to the number of AT/AA weapons they have; but they die too quickly to have a purpose.

... Their ambush value against vehicles seems minimal. I've seen the 18 AP Carl Gustav struggle to even dent lightly armoured APCs, let alone anything heavier; regardless of proximity or hit location on rear armour. They just can't kill things, even when they have the element of surprise. The M72 and RPG-7s are just jokes.


In brief summary - with infantry relegated purely to camping towns, there's little need for it on the battlefield; they have basically no use other than fighting other infantry - and therefore why field any at all in your deck or spend the deployment points on them? If all they can do is kill other infantry; where is the threat and the usefulness of infantry in the first place?

If the only thing infantry can effectively counter is infantry; you might as well simply not field any as it is redundant capacity and point expenditure for no gain in capability.
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Re: Why are my infantry obliterated by tanks in close quarte

Postby diana olympos » Wed 1 May 2013 14:03

deactivate MG.

It's the same guys who have both weapon.
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Re: Why are my infantry obliterated by tanks in close quarte

Postby Graphic » Wed 1 May 2013 14:09

My prescription:

- make anything with armor an invalid target for MG and rifle so they won't fire

- remove bug that reveals a unit as soon as it starts to aim

- reduce morale effects of tank shells against infantry

- increase AT rocket rate of fire, even if it means burning through them

- not related to tanks, but fix bugs associated with flamethrower infantry
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Re: Why are my infantry obliterated by tanks in close quarte

Postby JuggernautOfWar » Wed 1 May 2013 14:11

diana olympos wrote:deactivate MG.

It's the same guys who have both weapon.
So I have to deactivate the MG to use the rockets? Oh lord...
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Re: Why are my infantry obliterated by tanks in close quarte

Postby DoktorvonWer » Wed 1 May 2013 14:16

Graphic wrote:My prescription:

- make anything with armor an invalid target for MG and rifle so they won't fire

- remove bug that reveals a unit as soon as it starts to aim

- reduce morale effects of tank shells against infantry

- increase AT rocket rate of fire, even if it means burning through them

- not related to tanks, but fix bugs associated with flamethrower infantry


Hear hear. And this just for starters.
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Re: Why are my infantry obliterated by tanks in close quarte

Postby BelgarionNL » Wed 1 May 2013 14:20

yea diana is the biggest fanboy around and can't find anything wrong with the game! instead of actually fixing some issues diana prefers you use workarounds from the days of european escalation...

and yes infantry are getting owned by tanks in the middle of forests! that needs to be tweaked a bit! but I am sure that will happen.

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