American Unit ideas for W:RD

[alphazulu90]

American Unit Ideas for Red Dragon
Home of the largest unofficial Red Dragon thread so far
Firstly, to set the scene: Murica Song
Unit ideas and suggestions for America in Red dragon


Logistics

1. Command Blackhawk
2. MH-56 Sea Stallion (CONFIRMED)
3. Command Abrams (CONFIRMED)
4. LAV Command variant (CONFIRMED)
5. LAV-LOG
6. M548 of Glorious Design
   

Cant think of anything else

infantry

1. Improved Riflemen (51CONFIRMED)
2. Improved Marines (CONFIRMED)
3. Improved Light Riflemen (CONFIRMED)
4. FIM-92C (CONFIRMED)

Tanks, IFVs. and APCs

1. M1A2 (CONFIRMED)
2. M1A1HA (MORE THAN LIKELY)
3. M2A2 (CONFIRMED)
4. M1E1
5. M548

Support

1. MIM-23E/F
2. MIM-23K/J
3. MIM-72G
4. Bradley ADATs

Recon

1. Improved Rangers
2. Navy SEALs (CONFIRMED)
3. Improved SEALs
4. Scout sniper
5. M3A2 (CONFIRMED)

Vehicles

LAV-AT (CONFIRMED)
LAV-25 (CHANGED TO VEHICLES)

Helicopters and Helicopter Transports

1. AH-64 Longbow (CONFIRMED)
2. UH-60DAP (CONFIRMED)
3. Hellfire AH-1W
4. CH-46 "Phrog" (CONFIRMED)
5. Seahawk with Penguin Anti-ship missiles

Aircraft

1. F-16 Air superiority variant (CONFIRMED)
2. F-16CJ SEAD aircraft
3. F-16 Bomber w/ 12 500lbs
4. F-16 Bomber with 2 Mk.84s
5. F-16 ATGM plane with Mavericks
6. F-16 with GBUs
7. F-4 Bomber
8. F-4 Air superiority variant (CONFIRMED-F-4J REPURPOSED)
9. F-4 with GBUs
10. F-18 Super Hornet w/ Ant-Ship missiles (CONFIRMED)
11. F-18 Super Hornet w/ Air superiority variant
12. F-18 Air superiority variant
13. F-18 with GBUs
14. F-15E with GBUs
15. S-3 Viking w/ Harpoons

Naval Forces and Landing craft

1. Arleigh Burke class Destroyer (CONFIRMED FOR JAPAN)
2. Ticonderoga class cruiser
3. Kidd Class Destroyer
4. Oliver Hazard Perry frigate(CONFIRMED)
5. Cyclone class patrol boat
6. LCAC
7. Monitors for rivers
8. Asheville Class gunboat
9. Monitor Zippo (CONFIRMED)

Unarmored Infantry transports:
-M548 http://www.military-today.com/trucks/m548.htm


amphibious transports:
LCAC

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LCU 1610, 1627 and 1646
Helicopters
-AH-1J (CONFIRMED)
-AH-1W with Hellfires
-AH-64D Longbow (Swap the rocket pods for 8 more hellfires)
OP Idea, simultaneous attacks with all 16 hellfires
-CH-46 "Phrog" (CONFIRMED!)

Aircraft
F-18E Super Hornet (CONFIRMED)
-F-16 Variants
-F-16CJ Wild Weasel Version:

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-F-16 with HE Bombs
-F-16 A2A load out
-F-16 with Mavericks


-Mobile spawn ships, like an LPD that launches LCACs that are preloaded through your deck settings
-I don't know how hard this would be to implement
-this goes for other ships as well, the ability to launch helicopters
-and that brings me to LHDs to launch primarily marine airborne troops, in maybe CH-53s, or CH-46s

-land based anti-ship missiles to counter ships such as the harpoon

US NAVY
Patrol Ships
Cyclone-class patrol ship http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cyclone_class_Patrol_ship

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Pegasus hydrofoil patrol boat (More or less confirmed)
Patrol boat with:
1x76mm gun
2xQuad harpoon launchers

Asheville class gunboat
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asheville_class_gunboat
1x76mm gun
1x40mm Bofors(Replaced with "various missile configurations")
Amphibious Warfare ships

Destroyers
-Arleigh Burke class destroyer
505 ft (154 m)
Flight I: 8,315 t (8,184 long tons; 9,166 short tons)
http://www.naval-technology.com/projects/burke/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arleigh_Burke_class_destroyer

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-Spruance class
529 ft (161 m) waterline; 563 ft (172 m) overall
8,040 (long) tons full load
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spruance_class_destroyer
http://destroyerhistory.org/coldwar/spruanceclass/

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-Charles F. Adams class
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_F._Adams-class_destroyer
http://destroyerhistory.org/coldwar/charlesfadamsclass/

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-Kidd class destroyer
563 ft (172 m)
Light: 7,289 t (7,174 long tons; 8,035 short tons)
Full: 9,783 t (9,628 long tons; 10,784 short tons)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kidd_class_destroyer

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-Cruisers
-Ticonderoga class
567 feet (173 m)
Approx. 9,600 long tons (9,800 t) full load
http://www.naval-technology.com/projects/ticonderoga/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ticonderoga_class_cruiser

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With the Texas flag please

-Long Beach Nuclear cruiser
721 ft 3 in (219.84 m)
15,025 tons
The only reason I put this is because is looks cool
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Long_Beach_class_cruiser

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-Virginia Nuclear cruiser
Don't think it will be in because it may be too big
But maybe it will because the Kidd/Spruance's are only a little smaller (length wise)
Maybe it could be the "interesting unit" for America in RD
Overall Length: 586 ft (179 m)
Light Displacement: 10,663 tons
Full Displacement: 11,666 tons
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virginia_class_cruiser
http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/systems/ship/cgn-38.htm

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-More GBU armed planes
-JDAMs, maybe only as FIRE POSITION
-this maybe open the possibility of planes with more than 1 GBU
-TV guided bombs, (to balance aircraft with 1+ guided bombs (they would be guided), to make up for the fact its guided and may miss ALOT, give it plenty of HE power)

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Other Suggestions:

Top 10 Most Wanted

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Arleigh Burke Class Destroyers
M2 ADATs Missile System
AH-64D Longbow
MIM-23E/F
MIM-23K/J
Force Recon
F-16 A2A Version
LOSAT
M1A1HA

This is just a guess about the most wanted units

M8 AGS with ERA armor: http://www.wargame-ee.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=155&t=34998&start=670

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LOSAT(Line-of-Sight Anti-Tank)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MGM-166_LOSAT/
http://www.army-technology.com/projects/losat/
discussions of LOSAT:
http://www.wargame-ee.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=155&t=34998&start=680


AH-56 Cheyenne: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lockheed_AH-56_Cheyenne
http://www.militaryfactory.com/aircraft/detail.asp?aircraft_id=258
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=csGWV541yjw


RAH-66 Comanche
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boeing-Sikorsky_RAH-66_Comanche
http://www.army-technology.com/projects/comanche/


AUTOCANNON HUMVEE:
http://www.wargame-ee.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=155&t=34998&start=740
http://www.army-guide.com/eng/product3643.html

Various Anti-Aircraft systems:
M6 Linebacker : http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/land/m6.htm
http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/systems/ground/m6.htm
"Bofors Trinity": http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A6z_S-o3x9k
"General Electric Blazer mounted on a Bradley"
"LTV Setter"

http://www.wargame-ee.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=155&t=34998&start=700

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For posterity:

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Santa

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Logistics

1. Command Blackhawk
2. MH-56 Sea Stallion (CONFIRMED)
3. Maybe Abrams with a commander

Cant think of anything else

infantry

1. Improved Riflemen (TECHNICALY CONFIRMED)
2. Improved Marines
3. Improved Light Riflemen
4. FIM-92C?

Tanks and IFVs

1. M1A2 (CONFIRMED)
2. M1A1HA
3. M2A2
4. M1E1`

Support

1. MIM-23E/F
2. MIM-23K/J
3. MIM-72G
4. Bradley ADATs

Recon

1. Improved Rangers
2. Navy SEALs (CONFIRMED)
3. Improved SEALs
4. Scout sniper
5. M3A2

Vehicles

LAV-AT (CONFIRMED)
LAV-25 (CHANGED TO VEHICLES)

Cant think of any more


Helicopters and Helicopter Transports

1. AH-64 Longbow (CONFIRMED)
2. UH-60DAP (CONFIRMED)
3. Hellfire AH-1W
4. CH-46 "Phrog" (CONFIRMED)
5. Seahawk with Penguin Anti-ship missiles

Aircraft

1. F-16 Air superiority variant
2. F-16CJ SEAD aircraft
3. F-16 Bomber w/ 12 500lbs
4. F-16 Bomber with 2 Mk.84s
5. F-16 ATGM plane with Mavericks
6. F-16 with GBUs
7. F-4 Bomber
8. F-4 Air superiority variant (CONFIRMED-F-4J REPURPOSED)
9. F-4 with GBUs
10. F-18 Super Hornet w/ Ant-Ship missiles (CONFIRMED)
11. F-18 Super Hornet w/ Air superiority variant
12. F-18 Air superiority variant
13. F-18 with GBUs
14. F-15E with GBUs
15. F-14?
16. F-14?
17. S-3 Viking w/ Harpoons

Naval Forces and Landing craft

1. Arleigh Burke class Destroyer (TECHNICALY CONFIRMED)
2. Ticonderoga class cruiser
3. Kidd Class Destroyer
4. Oliver Hazard Perry frigate
5. Cyclone class patrol boat
6. LCAC
7. Those other landing ships?
8. Monitors for rivers
9. Monitor Zippo (CONFIRMED)

[AngrySwede]

You might want to change the title of your post to express that these are suggestions for Red Dragon, or you might have a lot of hate rolling your way from people who misunderstand what this post is about and didn't read the first sentence.


Of all these suggestions, the things that are most likely to make an appearance are the vehicles and the CH-46. I'd be very surprised if we see towed weapon systems, since Eugen seems to be keeping the theme of 'meeting engagements' for most of the battles, but hey, you never know what the new campaign will bring.

I for one only would really like to see CH-46 for the marines (maybe a supply version, if they feel like spoiling us) and the LAV-AD. However, I could see the M1A1 HA without much effort. The M1A2 might be a little bit of a stretch (even for a prototype) since they weren't delivered until around 98', and RD takes place around 91'.

And lastly: Welcome to the forums! Nice first post, and good job suggesting and not demanding vehicles.

[Bryan]

D-30 is soviet innit?

[another505]

i want airfields, military bases to fight for

the one who is defending it gets an advantage on air units or whatever,

[alphazulu90]

i want airfields, military bases to fight for the one who is defending it gets an advantage on air units or whatever

I thought about that, but I'm not sure if many people would like it, and I think it would only be work well on large maps, maybe a game mode where you have to capture strategic points?

is soviet D-30 innit?

if you mean is the D-30 soviet, then yes it is

[another505]

and also, i want real red dragons, that i have to shoot and kill !!

probably some mods or some fun dlc

like the nuke in ruse

[Mako]

oops

[Mako]

I just want realistic helicopter and plane mechanics...*

* That's a total lie, there are a lot of things I want

[Fade2Gray]

M6 Bradley Linebacker.

[renorzeta]

star-streak are coming for sure