Soviet Units in W:RD

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Soviet Units in W:RD

Postby BTR » Tue 7 Jan 2014 18:26

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Previous thread was sad and forgotten (-here), so I decided to summon myself up to the task of creating the ultimate "I want"/Suggestion thread to beat all the other counties suggestion threads. Consider this a monument to pointless forum labor.

Below is what should be available to the Soviets in Wargame: Red Dragon. My Marshall senses are tingling that some of those units may already be in, while others may never see the day :roll: . I've eliminated units which are pointless (in my eyes) and units which had doubtful deployment (such as UAZ-469 with Konkurs) Rule for prototypes: Worthwhile, and actually existent in "serial" configuration. I only considered late units, because, you know, prototypes are about the future. For some this may be an opportunity to research some vehicles, have fun exploring ;) .

So.. BTR wants for the soviets in W:RD...

-Note proto's are in Bold
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Spoiler : :
Strictly Command vehicles
BTR-50PU
BTR-50PUM
BTR-60PU
R-142N
R-142D
R-142G
R-145BM
BTR-70KSh
BMP-1KSh
BMD-1KSh
Mi-8IV
Mi-9
Mi-6VKP
Mi-22
Mi-27

WG/Com vehicles
BMP-1K
BMP-2K
BMP-3K
BMD-1K
BMD-2K
BMD-3K
BTR-80K
T-55(*)K
T-62(*)K
T-64(*)K
T-72(*)K
T-80(*)K
*Refer to tank (TNK) section for models

Logistics vehicles
GAZ-66
Ural-375D
Ural-4320
Ural-5324
ZIL-131
ZIL-131N
KrAZ-255B
KrAZ-255B1
MTP-LB
MTP-1
MTP-2
MTP-3

Logistics helicopters
Mi-4A
Mi-4AV
Mi-6
Mi-8T
Mi-8AT
Mi-8MT
Mi-14GP
Mi-26


INF
Spoiler : :
AR's
AKM
AKMN(SU)
AKMS
AKMSU
AK-74
AKS-74
AKS-74U
AK(S)-74N
AK-74M
AEK-971
AS "Val"

MG's
RPK
RPK-74
RPK-74P
RPK-74N(2)
RPKS-74
RPKS-74P
RPKS-74N(2)
RPK-74M
PK
PKM

DMR's
SVD
SVDS
SVU
VSS

MANPAD's
Strela-2
Strela-2M
Strela-3
Igla-1
Igla

ATGM's
Malyutka
Malyutka-P
Metis
Metis-M
Konkurs
Konkurs-M
Kornet

FLMT's
LPO-50
RPO "Rys'"
RPO-A

NGAT's
RPG-7
RPG-7V
RPG-7D
RPG-7N
RPG-7DN
RPG-7V1
RPG-7D1
RPG-16
RPG-18
RPG-22
RPG-26
RPG-27
RPG-29


SUP
Spoiler : :
AA
2A6 ZSU-23-4
2A6V ZSU-23-4V
2A6V-1 ZSU-23-4V1
2A6M1 ZSU-23-4M1
2A6M2 ZSU-23-4M2
2A6M3 ZSU-23-4M3
9K22
9K22M
9K22M1

SAM
9K31 Strela-1
9K31M Strela-1M
9K35 Strela-10
9K35M Strela-10M
9K35M2 Strela-10M2
9K35M3 Strela-10M3
OSA
OSA-AK
OSA-AKM
2K12 "Kub"
9K37 "Buk"
9K37M1 "Buk-M1"
9K330 "Tor"
9K331 "Tor-M1"

Mortars
BM-37
2B9
2B14
2S9
2S23
2S31
M-120
2B11

SP Artillery
2S1
2S18
2S3
2S3M
2S3M1
2S19
2S5
2S7
2S7M

MLRS
BM-21
BM-21V
BM-14
9K25
TOS-1
BM-24
BM-24T
BM-27
BMD-20
BM-30


TNK
Spoiler : :
IS-3
T-10

T-55 series
T-55
Т-55А
Т-55АМ
Т-55AM-1
T-55AD
T-55AD-1
T-55M
T-55M-1
T-55M1
T-55M1-1
T-55AMV
T-55MV

T-62 Series
IT-1
T-62
T-62A
T-62D
T-62D-1
T-62M
T-62M-1
T-62M1-1
T-62M1-2
T-62M1-2-1
T-62MV
T-62MV-1
T-62MD

T-64 Series
T-64
T-64A
Т-64B
T-64B1
T-64BM
T-64BV
T-64BV1

T-72 Series
T-72
T-72A
T-72B
T-72B1
T-72AV
T-72BM
T-72BU

T-80 Series
T-80
T-80B
T-80BV
T-80U
T-80UD
T-80UM
T-80UM-1
T-80AT
T-80UM-2


REC
Spoiler : :
Air recon
BRDM-1
BRDM-2
BRDM-3
BRM-1K
BRM-3K
PRP-3
PRP-4
PRP-4M
UAZ-469
UAZ-3151
PT-76
PT-76B
PT-85
PT-90
PT-76BM


Air Recon
Mi-2
Mi-2A
Mi-2M
Mi-24K


VEH
Spoiler : :
ATGM Vehicles
2P27 (AT-1A)
2P32 (AT-2)
9P110 (AT-3)
9P112 (AT-3 P)
9P137 (AT 2 P)
9P148 (AT 5)
9P149 (AT 6)
BTR-RD "Robot"

INF transports (Tracked)
BMP-1
BMP-1P
BMP-1PG
BMP-1D
BMP-2
BMP-2G
BMP-2D
BMP-3
BMP-3F
BMD-1
BMD-1P
BMD-2
BMD-3
BTR-D
BTR-ZD
BTR-T
ML-LB
MT-LBV
MT-LBVM
MT-LBVMK
MT-LBM


INF transports (Wheeled)
BTR-60P
BTR-60PA
BTR-60PA1
BTR-60PB
BTR-70
BTR-70 AGS
BTR-80
BTR-80A
BTR-80M
BTR-90


Other vehicles
UAZ-469 SPG-9
UAZ-469 SPG-9D(N)
UAZ-469 SPG-9DM
ASU-57
ASU-85
TO-55
TO-62
BMPT-781
BMPT-782
1K11
1K17


HEL
Spoiler : :
Mi-4AV
Mi-8TB
Mi-8TV
Mi-8MTV
Mi-24A
Mi-24D
Mi-24V
Mi-24VP
Mi-24P
Mi-28
Ka-29TB
Ka-50
Ka-50N
Ka-50Sh


PLA
Spoiler : :
MiG-21
MiG-21
MiG-21F
MiG-21F-13
MiG-21P
MiG-21PF
MiG-21FL
MiG-21PFM
MiG-21S
MiG-21SM
MiG-21SMT
MiG-21Bis

MiG-23/27
MiG-23S
MiG-23M
MiG-23BN
MiG-23ML
MiG-23P
MiG-23MLD
MiG-23BM(27)
MiG-27K
MiG-27D

MiG-25/31
MiG-25P
MiG-25M
MiG-25MP
MiG-25PD
MiG-25PDS
MiG-25PDSL
MiG-31
MiG-31B
MiG-31BS
MiG-31M

MiG-29
MiG-29 (9-12)
MiG-29 (9-13)
MiG-29S
MiG-29M
MiG-29K
MiG-29SD


Su-7
Su-7
Su-7B
Su-7BM

Su-15
Su-15
Su-15T
Su-15TM

Su-17
Su-17
Su-17M
Su-17M2
Su-17M3
Su-17M4

Su-24
Su-24
Su-24M

Su-25
Su-25
Su-25T
Su-25TM


Su-27
Su-27S
Su-27M
Su-27PU
Su-27K
Su-27IB


Yak-28
Yak-28
Yak-28B
Yak-28L
Yak-28I
Yak-28N
Yak-28P

Yak-38/41
Yak-38
Yak-38I
Yak-38M
Yak-41
Yak-41M
Yak-43


SHP
Spoiler : :
Copystolen from ikalugin
- note I use "accepted into service" dates.

Large ASW Ships (БДК). (ASW/multirole destroyers)
- pr.61 class 19 built between 1962 and 1966.
- pr. 1134A class 10 built between 1969 and 1977 (this Kresta II class "cruiser" in NATO classification is still shorter than pr.11551 "destroyer" in the game).
- pr. 1134B/BF class 10 built between 1971 and 1975.
- pr. 1155 class 12 built between 1980 and 1988
- pr. 11551 class 1 built, 2 scrapped.

Destroyers.
- pr. 30Bis class 70 ships built between 1949 and 1953. Scraped 1963-1994.
- pr. 56 class 27 built between 1956 and 1957. Scraped 1986-1993.
- pr. 56M class 4 upgraded in 1958.
- pr. 56BBis class 9 built between 1960 and 1969. Scrapped 1982-1993.
- pr. 956 class 17 built and 4 cancelled between 1980 and 1993. Exported to PRC.

Guard Ships (Frigates).
- pr. 35 class 18 built between 1964 and 1967. Scraped 1987-1992.
- pr. 42 class 8 built between 1952 and 1953. Scraped 1965-1986.
- pr. 50 class 68 built between 1954 and 1959, a lot of those were exported to relevant WRD countries. Scraped 1980-1994.
- pr. 159/A/AE class 56 built between 1961 and 1978. Scrapped 1986-1995.
- pr. 1135/M class 32 built between 1970 and 1981. Until 1977 were classified as "Large ASW Ships".
- pr. 1156/T/TR class 14 built between 1975 and 1987, exported to relevant WRD countries.
- pr. 11540 class 1 built in 1990, 1 delayed.

Small Missile Ships (missile Corvettes).
- pr. 1234/E/1/7 class 47 built between 1970 and 1991. Differ in weapons. Scrapped 1987-2005.
- pr. 1239 class 1 built in 1989, 1 delayed.
- pr. 1240 class 1 built in 1977. Scrapped 1990.

Small ASW Ships (ASW Corvettes).
- pr. 122Bis class 227 built between 1947 and 1955. Exported to WRD relevant countries. Scrapped 1957-1998.
- pr. 201/M/T class 188 built between 1955 and 1960. Exported to WRD relevant countries. Scrapped 1972-1991.
- pr. 204/E class 66 built between 1960 and 1968. Scrapped 1979-1991.
- pr. 502/M class 16 built between 1968 and 1978.
- pr. 503 class 5 built between 1974 and 1994.
- pr. 1124/M class 86 built between 1970 and 1994.
- pr. 1141 class 1 built in 1977.
- pr. 11451 class 2 built between 1987 and 1990.
- pr. 1331M class 12 built between 1989 and 1990. Exported to relevant WRD countries.
- pr. 12412/1241PE 36 built between 1980 and 1991.

Small Artillery Ships (gun armed Corvettes).
- pr. 1208/1 class 11 built between 1975 and 1982.


ATGM
Spoiler : :
Mobile/Infantry
9K11/9K14
9M14
9M14P
9M14M

2K8
3M11
3M11P
9M17M

2K15/2K16
3M6

9K111
9M111
9M111-2
9M111M

9K111-1
9M113
9M113M

9K115
9M115
9M131

9K114/9K113
9M114
9M114F
9M114M
9M120
9M120F


Tank/Artillery
2K4
3M7

9K166(-1/2/3)
9M117
9M117M
9M117M1-1
9M117M1-2
9M117M1-3


9K112/9K112-1
9M112
9M112M
9M128

9K119/9K120
9M119
9M119F
9M119M

2K24
3OF38
3OF38M

2K25
3OF39
3OF39M


Remember, this is a suggestion thread of superior soviet design, other suggestion threads are weak.
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Re: Soviet Units in W:RD

Postby trotskygrad » Tue 7 Jan 2014 18:31

might want to make new units a different color, as well as suggest alternate loadouts to existing units.
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Re: Soviet Units in W:RD

Postby BTR » Tue 7 Jan 2014 18:33

trotskygrad wrote:might want to make new units a different color, as well as suggest alternate loadouts to existing units.


When I have the dedication to waste time on the forums, I definitely will.
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Re: Soviet Units in W:RD

Postby Mr0Buggy » Tue 7 Jan 2014 18:39

Any particular reason for skipping out the Konkurs in the inf. ATGM category ?

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Re: Soviet Units in W:RD

Postby BTR » Tue 7 Jan 2014 18:41

Oh, that slipped for me. Updated.
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Re: Soviet Units in W:RD

Postby ikalugin » Tue 7 Jan 2014 18:46

And now we would have an argument that there is no such thing as T72BM/T72BA tank, only T72B obr 1989. Also you have forgot the T80A and such.
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Re: Soviet Units in W:RD

Postby BTR » Tue 7 Jan 2014 18:52

Never liked T-80A, its a test-bed for T-80U with ERA placements migrating to T-80BV. I think there are more worthwhile and interesting Protos. As for the T-72 late series, both 187 and 188 existed, so I dubbed them as if they were introduced serially. What one can really argue about is if the T-72"BU" would really be called T-72U, but that's just demagogically unpleasant.
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Re: Soviet Units in W:RD

Postby Azaz3l » Tue 7 Jan 2014 19:09

ZSU-23-4MZ

-4MZ

MZ

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ikalugin wrote:And now we would have an argument that there is no such thing as T72BA tank

There were doubts that there was no such thing as T-72BA?
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Re: Soviet Units in W:RD

Postby Mr0Buggy » Tue 7 Jan 2014 19:19

I think I asked the question a few times, but never got a definitive answer.

How hard is it to upgrade Konkurs System to make it capable of firing the Konkurs-M ? Or is the system the same, just the missile different and all you gotta do is just mount the tube with the new missile to the old launch platform ?

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Re: Soviet Units in W:RD

Postby Killertomato » Tue 7 Jan 2014 19:20

Is there really a point to putting the T-80UD in instead of getting another card or two of T-80Us? I mean, the range is probably different, but other than that...

Also, lol @ Mi-27.
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