Enquiry on Yugoslavia OOB in 80s

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Enquiry on Yugoslavia OOB in 80s

Postby Warrior27 » Tue 20 Dec 2016 16:25

ah....this is not really gameplay related, but I cant find a suitable sub-forum asking it.

Is anyone has details on Yugoslavia 's order of battle (OOB) in 80s era (1980-89) ???

Indeed, North Korea 's OOB in 80s era is also needed.

Please, please give me links on the above both :D

Thanks so much in advance.

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Re: Enquiry on Yugoslavia OOB in 80s

Postby RedFive » Tue 20 Dec 2016 17:58

Sorry, references about the Yugoslavian military are only available to Yugoslavians and are too secret to share publicly. They do document Yugo's military superiority to all other nations, though.

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Re: Enquiry on Yugoslavia OOB in 80s

Postby HrcAk47 » Tue 20 Dec 2016 18:02

What in particular are you interested in? Most of my docs and books are away from me, but maybe I can help.
The SEAD never bothered me anyway.

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Postby Ribar » Tue 20 Dec 2016 19:00

RedFive wrote:Sorry, references about the Yugoslavian military are only available to Yugoslavians and are too secret to share publicly. They do document Yugo's military superiority to all other nations, though.


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Re: Enquiry on Yugoslavia OOB in 80s

Postby nuke92 » Tue 20 Dec 2016 20:04

RedFive wrote:Sorry, references about the Yugoslavian military are only available to Yugoslavians and are too secret to share publicly. They do document Yugo's military superiority to all other nations, though.


There was discussion going on in the Yugo thread before it got locked.
Your claim of superiority to all other nations needs an in depth analysis though.
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Re: Enquiry on Yugoslavia OOB in 80s

Postby HrcAk47 » Fri 30 Dec 2016 00:00

Warrior27 wrote:ah....this is not really gameplay related, but I cant find a suitable sub-forum asking it.

Is anyone has details on Yugoslavia 's order of battle (OOB) in 80s era (1980-89) ???

Indeed, North Korea 's OOB in 80s era is also needed.

Please, please give me links on the above both :D

Thanks so much in advance.



So, if you're still looking for it, I ran into a source.

Marjan D: Jedinstvo - Poslednji Ustroj JNA; 2003; Polemos 6, pg. 11-47.

Cat. A units are active, 100% staffed and ready to deploy within hours or less.

Cat. B units are 50% staffed and can be brought up to A level within a few days. They feature at least 1-2 cat. A batallions.

Cat. R units are reserve, and are only skeleton-crewed. Most equipment is long-term conserved, and even dispersed. Takes days-weeks to assemble them.

Under the reorganization plan Jedinstvo, JNA land forces (KoV) had in 1990:

5 divisions of KoV (Land Forces), 3 cat.B and 2 cat. R

23 partisan divisions, all cat. R
72 partisan brigades, all cat. R

20 infantry brigades, 2 cat. A, 10 cat. B, 8 cat. R
17 infantry regiments, 5 cat. B, 12 cat. R

7 mountain brigades, 3 cat. B, 4 cat. R
2 alpine brigades, 1 cat. B, 1 cat. R

32 motorized brigades, 4 cat. A, 21 cat. B, 7 cat. R
1 motorized regiment, cat. R
1 guards motorized brigade, cat. A
6 reserve motorised regiments, cat. R

3 brigades of marine infantry, 1 cat. A, 2 cat. B

6 armored brigades, all cat. B

11 mechanized brigades, 7 cat. A, 3 cat. B, 1 cat. R

1 artillery rocket brigade, cat. B
6 artillery brigades, all cat. B
20 mixed artillery regiments, 17 cat. B, 3 cat. R
5 mixed antiarmor brigades, all cat. B
21 mixed antiarmor regiments, 12 cat. B, 9 cat. R

25 engineer regiments, 13 cat. B, 12 cat. R
4 CBRN regiments, all cat. A
11 pontoon batallions, 2 cat. A, 4 cat. B, 5 cat. R

6 self propelled missile AA regiments, all cat. A
19 light AA artillery regiments, 9 cat. A, 7 cat. B, 3 cat. R
1 light AA artillery division, cat. R

8 signals regiments, all cat. A
24 signals battalions, 14 cat. A, 8 cat. B, 2 cat. R
4 signals reconnaissance battalions, all cat. A
1 electronic warfare battalion, cat. A
2 signals/EW/recon centers, all cat. A

19 military police battalions, 8 cat. A, 8 cat. B, 3 cat. R
8 special force detachments, 5 cat. A, 2 cat. B, 1 cat. R

33 border guards detachments, all cat. A
17 border guards battalions, 2 cat. A, 15 cat. R

10 self propelled gun battalions, all cat. R
4 self propelled antitank gun battalions, all cat. R
The SEAD never bothered me anyway.

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Re: Enquiry on Yugoslavia OOB in 80s

Postby CandyMan » Fri 30 Dec 2016 01:55

RedFive wrote:Sorry, references about the Yugoslavian military are only available to Yugoslavians and are too secret to share publicly. They do document Yugo's military superiority to all other nations, though.



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Re: Enquiry on Yugoslavia OOB in 80s

Postby Sweedish_Gunner » Fri 30 Dec 2016 05:33

CandyMan wrote:
RedFive wrote:Sorry, references about the Yugoslavian military are only available to Yugoslavians and are too secret to share publicly. They do document Yugo's military superiority to all other nations, though.



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Re: Enquiry on Yugoslavia OOB in 80s

Postby Warrior27 » Mon 2 Jan 2017 04:46

HrcAk47 wrote:
Warrior27 wrote:ah....this is not really gameplay related, but I cant find a suitable sub-forum asking it.

Is anyone has details on Yugoslavia 's order of battle (OOB) in 80s era (1980-89) ???

Indeed, North Korea 's OOB in 80s era is also needed.

Please, please give me links on the above both :D

Thanks so much in advance.



So, if you're still looking for it, I ran into a source.

Marjan D: Jedinstvo - Poslednji Ustroj JNA; 2003; Polemos 6, pg. 11-47.

Cat. A units are active, 100% staffed and ready to deploy within hours or less.

Cat. B units are 50% staffed and can be brought up to A level within a few days. They feature at least 1-2 cat. A batallions.

Cat. R units are reserve, and are only skeleton-crewed. Most equipment is long-term conserved, and even dispersed. Takes days-weeks to assemble them.

Under the reorganization plan Jedinstvo, JNA land forces (KoV) had in 1990:

5 divisions of KoV (Land Forces), 3 cat.B and 2 cat. R

23 partisan divisions, all cat. R
72 partisan brigades, all cat. R

20 infantry brigades, 2 cat. A, 10 cat. B, 8 cat. R
17 infantry regiments, 5 cat. B, 12 cat. R

7 mountain brigades, 3 cat. B, 4 cat. R
2 alpine brigades, 1 cat. B, 1 cat. R

32 motorized brigades, 4 cat. A, 21 cat. B, 7 cat. R
1 motorized regiment, cat. R
1 guards motorized brigade, cat. A
6 reserve motorised regiments, cat. R

3 brigades of marine infantry, 1 cat. A, 2 cat. B

6 armored brigades, all cat. B

11 mechanized brigades, 7 cat. A, 3 cat. B, 1 cat. R

1 artillery rocket brigade, cat. B
6 artillery brigades, all cat. B
20 mixed artillery regiments, 17 cat. B, 3 cat. R
5 mixed antiarmor brigades, all cat. B
21 mixed antiarmor regiments, 12 cat. B, 9 cat. R

25 engineer regiments, 13 cat. B, 12 cat. R
4 CBRN regiments, all cat. A
11 pontoon batallions, 2 cat. A, 4 cat. B, 5 cat. R

6 self propelled missile AA regiments, all cat. A
19 light AA artillery regiments, 9 cat. A, 7 cat. B, 3 cat. R
1 light AA artillery division, cat. R

8 signals regiments, all cat. A
24 signals battalions, 14 cat. A, 8 cat. B, 2 cat. R
4 signals reconnaissance battalions, all cat. A
1 electronic warfare battalion, cat. A
2 signals/EW/recon centers, all cat. A

19 military police battalions, 8 cat. A, 8 cat. B, 3 cat. R
8 special force detachments, 5 cat. A, 2 cat. B, 1 cat. R

33 border guards detachments, all cat. A
17 border guards battalions, 2 cat. A, 15 cat. R

10 self propelled gun battalions, all cat. R
4 self propelled antitank gun battalions, all cat. R


Happy New Year! Man, I wish you all the best 2017.
Yes, I am still waiting your generous effort.
Very details, Thanks so much.

2 Further enquires:
1.
In your list, is those infantry brigades alike Soviet's separate brigade standing outside division structure?

2.
Excluding Signals / MP / EW / CBRN elements,
do you have the Designation on OOB?? ( at least Cat A & Cat B ? )
e.g. 5th Infantry Division
e.g. 1st Marine Brigade

As my friends and I always love history.
We'd like to play and modify decks into more historical accurate structure with real designation.
So this is reason I am asking for it.

Again, I thank you in advance. :)

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Re: Enquiry on Yugoslavia OOB in 80s

Postby HrcAk47 » Mon 2 Jan 2017 10:42

Happy new year to you too, man.

So, further details. Under the Jedinstvo plan, the entire organization was divided into corps.

I will name a few for you, to name them all would take an absurd amount of time, sorry :D

5th Corps, HQ Banja Luka

Corps command and HQ unit
16th Proletarian Motorized Brigade (16. proleterska motorizovana brigada)
343rd Motorized Brigade (343. motorizovana brigada)
329th Armored Brigade (329. oklopna brigada)
5th Mixed Artillery Regiment (5. mešoviti artiljerijski puk)
(Rest are support units, partisan brigades, etc.)

10th Corps, HQ Zagreb

Corps command and HQ unit
4th Armored Brigade
140th Mechanized Brigade (140. mehanizovana brigada)
257th Motorized Brigade
622nd Motorized Brigade
6th Mixed Artillery Regiment
6th Mixed Anti-Armor Artillery Regiment
613rd Light AAA regiment
(Rest are support units, partisan brigades, etc.)
The SEAD never bothered me anyway.

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